US Airways Awarded Coveted 2012 MRO of the Year Award for Airline Maintenance Excellence

[700UW]

MROs are not line maintenance.

ST Mobile Aerospace
Certificated Mechanics: 322
Repairmen: 61
Non-Certificated Mechanics: 927
Total Employees: 1310

Timco Macon
Certificated Mechanics: 117
Repairmen: 6
Non-Certificated Mechanics: 67
Total Employees: 184

Aeroman San Salvador

$2 an hour!

 

[SparrowHawk]

Every A&P has his license on the line on every piece of work MRO or not.

Well it's like Dr Paul says, "Truth is Treason in the Empire of Lies"

I get "The you never worked in Aviation" defense when the position is indefensible.

I don't have to work in aviation to know the pros and cons of outsourcing. However I can count the amount of dues revenue the IAM loses to the outsource providers. Which is really what the argument is all about. Money for Buffenberger so he can give it to the Empty Suit in the White House.

Next we'll hear about how using dues money for political donations. What we won't hear is the strong arm tactics some locals use to coerce donations. What we also won't hear is that ALL funds are fungible. That once the money is in the larger pot it's all part of the gumbo of union political giving. These will be absent or used to obfuscate the agenda here in trashing MRO's

 

[700UW]

Lets change the subject when you cant debate the facts.

And I think you need to read the LMRDA, every penny a union spends is itemized to the government and its illegal for dues money to be give to a candidate or a party.

The issues is outsourcing and safety, not dues money and politics.

A company doesnt have to report every penny they spend and they can use their money to give to candidates and parties.

 

[SparrowHawk]

Lets change the subject when you cant debate the facts.

And I think you need to read the LMRDA, every penny a union spends is itemized to the government and its illegal for dues money to be give to a candidate or a party.

The issues is outsourcing and safety, not dues money and politics.

A company doesnt have to report every penny they spend and they can use their money to give to candidates and parties.

You are WRONG. End of conversation. Ever hear the phrase "Figures don't lie, But Liars figure" Well that's what a Union is these days. An organization that is no longer interested in every day rank and file issues but instead is interested in perpetuating their own interest. Don't believe me go the the fleet service threads. All IAM does is collect dues, hide it through creative accountants and give it to politicians who gladly take it all the while selling them down the river of false hope.

And we haven't had a major failure causing loss of life in the US since when? The period of unprecedented safety is at least a decade in length. A decade in which outsourcing has grown. So by that measure we should outsource all maintenance.

 

[700UW]

If you truly believe that, then you are truly ignorant.

The DOL audits unions all the time.

Have you ever been part of one? I have.

You truly better stick to copy machines, as you have no clue about Labor Management Reporting Disclosure Act.

Lets see your evidence of proof that dues money goes to candidates, as its illegal. And no candidate would accept it.

Truly amazing.

 

[SparrowHawk]

If you truly believe that, then you are truly ignorant.

The DOL audits unions all the time.

Have you ever been part of one? I have.

You truly better stick to copy machines, as you have no clue about Labor Management Reporting Disclosure Act.

Lets see your evidence of proof that dues money goes to candidates, as its illegal. And no candidate would accept it.

Truly amazing.

NOPE! I will tell you this, I've seen altered time card/charge slips that are used to show that all projects are on budget in an aerospace company I worked for. I've seen "Creative Accounting" in every corporation I've ever worked for. Altered expense reports so the boss could get his bonus. You name it. I don't care what alphabet law you enact an organization will find a work around. This is human nature and no union, charity or business is immune. All any company has to do is fudge the books and make it look plausible. Do you really think the Empty Suit Obama Labor Department is going to audit the IAM given the fact he collected millions in funds from Labor last time around?

Never mid the fac that like I said before the percentage of outsourcing went up as the number of crashes went down. Maybe that means ALL work should be outsourced. It certainly doesn't support your claim. PLUS if the Outsourcing providers were performing as badly as you make it seem you'd think their contracts would be cancelled yet they aren't. Could the reason be that your argument holds no water?

 

[700UW]

Your still not getting it.

Unions are held to a way higher standard of accounting and auditing than companies, call the DOL if you dont believe me.

Put up or shut up all ready, cause your spewing mis-truths.

 

[blue collar]

NOPE! I will tell you this, I've seen altered time card/charge slips that are used to show that all projects are on budget in an aerospace company I worked for. I've seen "Creative Accounting" in every corporation I've ever worked for. Altered expense reports so the boss could get his bonus. You name it. I don't care what alphabet law you enact an organization will find a work around. This is human nature and no union, charity or business is immune. All any company has to do is fudge the books and make it look plausible. Do you really think the Empty Suit Obama Labor Department is going to audit the IAM given the fact he collected millions in funds from Labor last time around?

Never mid the fac that like I said before the percentage of outsourcing went up as the number of crashes went down. Maybe that means ALL work should be outsourced. It certainly doesn't support your claim. PLUS if the Outsourcing providers were performing as badly as you make it seem you'd think their contracts would be cancelled yet they aren't. Could the reason be that your argument holds no water?

There he goes again! Telling us how we're all s hit, and they need to outsource our jobs! He knows that outsourcing is good, because he used to outsource copying duties, you know, apples to apples. But what do I know? I'm just another one of those dumb, lazy union members who's being strong armed by my local to give money to President Obama. This world would really be a better place if we could all be as smart as you

 

[SparrowHawk]

Your still not getting it.

Unions are held to a way higher standard of accounting and auditing than companies, call the DOL if you dont believe me.

Put up or shut up all ready, cause your spewing mis-truths.

From the Federal Election Comission (FEC)
Overall Contributions
Democrats: $14,176,479.00 (0.9728)
Republicans: $251,674.00 (0.0173)

IAM's Major Issues
Issue Total Spent Lobbying
Labor, Antitrust & Workplace $14,628,033.00
Trade $13,247,585.00
Defense $13,015,353.00
Government Issues $11,475,353.00
Transportation $8,058,033.00
Railroads $7,310,000.00
Agriculture $6,744,905.00
Aviation, Airlines & Airports $6,640,000.00
Retirement $6,568,033.00
Immigration $5,420,000.00
IAM Lobbying Groups
Client Total Spent Lobbying
Machinists/Aerospace Workers Union $11,832,680.00
Machinists/Aerospace Workers Dist 9 $3,765,353.00

During a brief search I found 72 audit violations spread out among 24 locals of the pure as drven snow IAM. Some locals had as many as 9 violations. Nearly all of the audits were from the Bush years and almost none since the Empty Suit took office. How could that be? Nearly 12 million and poof audits go away. I'm tired of researching what I already know to be true. So there you have it. Want to talk about the pending cases where the IAM tried to intimidate workers into donating?

 

[700UW]

Lobbying is not giving dues money to candidates or parties.

Try again.

 

[SparrowHawk]

Lobbying is not giving dues money to candidates or parties.

Try again.

NO let's examine the 72 KNOWN violations of your precious audit laws

 

[700UW]

US Airways direct money to candidates

Local level violations, not the International Union, try again.

 

[SparrowHawk]

There he goes again! Telling us how we're all s hit, and they need to outsource our jobs! He knows that outsourcing is good, because he used to outsource copying duties, you know, apples to apples. But what do I know? I'm just another one of those dumb, lazy union members who's being strong armed by my local to give money to President Obama. This world would really be a better place if we could all be as smart as you

At ANY time did I infer that anyone employed at US Airways was lazy? Or a POS? Or lazy because you're a union member? Short answer is NO?

They aren't "Your" jobs and outsourcing is outsourcing doesn't matter what industry. The ONLY difference is in my world no one dies from a mistake. Fired? Perhaps.

I'm truly sorry you feel I'm against you when that is not the case. However their are economic realities at play that have virtually NOTHING to do with your knowledge, skill and abilities or even your rate of pay. As I said before companies outsource for many reasons and outsourcing can and has been a disaster in some industries. Take call center work for example, turned out that many companies are coming back on shore and using their own people in order to maintain good customer service. Conversely it make no sense at all to run you your own copy/mail operation if you're a law form of any size.

In and area where you only get to wrong once the outsourced mtc has proved successful to date.

 

[blue collar]

In and area where you only get to wrong once the outsourced mtc has proved successful to date.

No, it hasn't. No point in going over the details, you don't care. You see it the way you want to see it.

 

[SparrowHawk]

No, it hasn't. No point in going over the details, you don't care. You see it the way you want to see it.

Any Lawn darts as a direct result of outsourced mtc? Mainline equipment? Any FAA fines against the outsourced mtc providers? As a customer what other parameters should I be aware of that I'm not?

Fact is if US Airways did 100% of the work in house they would be 100% OUT OF BUSINESS.