US Airways Non-stop Service, Charlotte-Honolulu

[Travelpro72]

The difference between first class transcon service and Envoy service is HUGE to say the least. In Envoy you drape the cart with the blue cart cover and the galley is packed out where you serve in the aisle. That's just the basic difference besides appetizers served chairside, salads prepared and served chairside. The wine selection is much different and more enhanced along with liquers and port. Truly it's apples and oranges. I could go on and on. Our domestic first product while slightly enhanced is minimal at best. It's what many other carriers would serve on a 2 hour flight.

 

[nycbusdriver]

They are - the seats are the flat but inclined type which don't go fully horizontal (that would take up more space).

Jim

They're not really flat, either. Maybe they can be called flat if you average it out, like a statistician calling a washboard flat because the highs and lows cancel each other out on average.

 

[BoeingBoy]

They're not really flat, either.

Thanks. I was going strictly on the PR from when they were announced. I guess technically no airplane seat is truly flat - hard to do that with the back cushion separate from the seat bottom cushion.

Jim

 

[nycbusdriver]

Thanks. I was going strictly on the PR from when they were announced. I guess technically no airplane seat is truly flat - hard to do that with the back cushion separate from the seat bottom cushion.

Jim

With great forethought and intention, I used a washboard to formulate my analogy. It is most descriptive of the 767 "Majesty Chairs."

 

[Travelpro72]

Those 767 "envoy" seats are horrible, horrible, horrible. The way they slant you can pull your underwear from around your neck after a few hours sleep. Hell that's IF you can sleep. You'll get a wedgie from hell in those coffins from sliding down as ya fly. Oh and did I mention I don't like the 767 seats?

 

[WCT]

The difference between first class transcon service and Envoy service is HUGE to say the least. In Envoy you drape the cart with the blue cart cover and the galley is packed out where you serve in the aisle. That's just the basic difference besides appetizers served chairside, salads prepared and served chairside. The wine selection is much different and more enhanced along with liquers and port. Truly it's apples and oranges. I could go on and on. Our domestic first product while slightly enhanced is minimal at best. It's what many other carriers would serve on a 2 hour flight.

Thanks TravelPro. I know this is an leisure market, but why not offer Envoy service? A very long flight, but oh well!
Also is this another PHL crew run, of CLT?
Anyway, enjoy the Islands!

 

[nycbusdriver]

Also is this another PHL crew run, of CLT?
Anyway, enjoy the Islands!

CLT crews will fly Honolulu and Rio. As we speak, the CLT 75/76 domestic base is withering away to nothing, and the new (revived?) CLT 75/76 international base is getting up to speed. By January, all 75/76 crews on the east system, i.e. PHL and CLT, will be international.

 

[WhatBag?]

Thanks TravelPro. I know this is an leisure market, but why not offer Envoy service? A very long flight, but oh well!
Also is this another PHL crew run, of CLT?
Anyway, enjoy the Islands!

CLT crews. Got three HNL's in Dec. Woohoo!!

 

[Be Careful What You Wish For.]

CLT crews. Got three HNL's in Dec. Woohoo!!

HNL in December - died and gone to heaven.

 

[whatkindoffreshhell]

Those 767 "envoy" seats are horrible, horrible, horrible. The way they slant you can pull your underwear from around your neck after a few hours sleep. Hell that's IF you can sleep. You'll get a wedgie from hell in those coffins from sliding down as ya fly. Oh and did I mention I don't like the 767 seats?

A pic would help us to understand the problem here...

 

[Travelpro72]

Oh my goodness.

 

[BoeingBoy]

While fairly small, all the Envoy seats are here.

Jim

 

[nycbusdriver]

Re: the A330-200 "Pod"

Oh, man! Another washboard. Are these American Airline rejects, too?

 

[Travelpro72]

Whether the new seat to be installed on the first A330-200 is comfortable or not is yet to be seen. I do believe that I read somewhere that US is the first airline to use the seats. Anyone know for sure?

 

[HP2USFA]

According to the press release from the company (manufacturer) - US is the launch customer for the new A330-200 'Pods'.