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southwind said:
Last time I checked or at least up until BaRack took office, the US didn't negotiate with terrorists and IRAN funds terrorism. How 'bout we start there!
 
Cough, Reagan, cough.
 
777 fixer said:
 
This isn't 1950.
 
Good point........wasn't it just eight years ago Maj. Gen. Zhu Chenghu threatened the use of nuclear weapons on American cities over the Taiwan issue?
 
delldude said:
 
Good point........wasn't it just eight years ago Maj. Gen. Zhu Chenghu threatened the use of nuclear weapons on American cities over the Taiwan issue?
 
Last I checked he wasn't in charge of China and the Chinese probably feel different on the issue of North Korea.  A country that they have grown a bit tired of.
 
southwind said:
Last time I checked or at least up until BaRack took office, the US didn't negotiate with terrorists and IRAN funds terrorism. How 'bout we start there!
 
How is not negotiating going to advance our goals?  Do you have an example where not negotiating has been successful?  
 
777 fixer said:
 
Last I checked he wasn't in charge of China and the Chinese probably feel different on the issue of North Korea.  A country that they have grown a bit tired of.
 
Well then, you go bomb NK and think about a move to the east coast.
 
Talk is cheap, much cheaper than uranium, centrifuges, and weapons delivery systems.  Iran can say it wants to destroy Israel, and North Korea can say it will destroy the U.S. or whomever it likes but the reality is that any country that size which uses a nuclear device in aggression basically guarantees its own annihilation.  That's the double-edged sword of being a medium-smallish country and wanting and getting nukes, the kid gloves come off, and while your enemies may be more reluctant to attack you, if they ever feel they must they will take the opportunity to take you and your nuclear capabilities out completely.
 
ChockJockey said:
Talk is cheap, much cheaper than uranium, centrifuges, and weapons delivery systems.  Iran can say it wants to destroy Israel, and North Korea can say it will destroy the U.S. or whomever it likes but the reality is that any country that size which uses a nuclear device in aggression basically guarantees its own annihilation.  That's the double-edged sword of being a medium-smallish country and wanting and getting nukes, the kid gloves come off, and while your enemies may be more reluctant to attack you, if they ever feel they must they will take the opportunity to take you and your nuclear capabilities out completely.
 
Take out an American city, Obama would piss himself over a response......if it came in a month if
at all.
 
delldude said:
 
Take out an American city, Obama would piss himself over a response......if it came in a month if
at all.
 
The problem with spouting idiotic hyperbole year in and year out is that after a while you actually start believing it, or just let it come out of you without checking in at your prefrontal lobes.
 
Please describe what non-existent delivery system Iran or North Korea would use to destroy a U.S. city, and what their possible strategy would be to initiate a very limited first-strike which would bring guaranteed retaliation and which they have no means to follow up on.
 
ChockJockey said:
 
The problem with spouting idiotic hyperbole year in and year out is that after a while you actually start believing it, or just let it come out of you without checking in at your prefrontal lobes.
 
Please describe what non-existent delivery system Iran or North Korea would use to destroy a U.S. city, and what their possible strategy would be to initiate a very limited first-strike which would bring guaranteed retaliation and which they have no means to follow up on.
 
Small aircraft at 2000 feet would be an eye popper.
 
Then prove who to respond to......LOL
 
ChockJockey said:
The problem with spouting idiotic hyperbole year in and year out is that after a while you actually start believing it, or just let it come out of you without checking in at your prefrontal lobes.
 
Please describe what non-existent delivery system Iran or North Korea would use to destroy a U.S. city, and what their possible strategy would be to initiate a very limited first-strike which would bring guaranteed retaliation and which they have no means to follow up on.
As far as a delivery system.is concerned I think that is pretty easy. Put the suckered on a small boat, drive it in to a coastal harbor and boom. Ground blast not as effective as a air burst but it would take out most of the city depending upon the yield.

As far a repercussion, that's a whole different story. While I sure the cries for an all.out retaliation would be defending I think it would be a stupid move. Would not solve anything. An air campaign to level Teheran would seem like a wiser option.

The nuke Pandora box is a batch to close once opened.
 
"The problem with spouting idiotic hyperbole year in and year out is that after a while you actually start believing it, or just let it come out of you without checking in at your prefrontal lobes."

Word
 
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