US and IRAN...reach NUKE deal !

[SparrowHawk]

You two are splitting hairs over the difference between the meaning of the word control versus influence.
 
A sitting President has a great deal of "Control" over certain things, really important things. Of often greater importance is the amount of "influence" he can exert.
 
A President "Controls" who gets nominated to the Supreme Court yet has no real control or influence regarding the rulings issued.
 
Case on point would be dyed in the wool Republican President Eisenhower appointed Earl Warren as Chief Justice of the Supreme Court, taking what he thought was a conservative judge that would issue rulings favorable to his party. WRONG! The Warren Court is widely regarded as the most Liberal Court in US History.

 

[777 fixer]

A President "Controls" who gets nominated to the Supreme Court yet has no real control or influence regarding the rulings issued.

That was the point I was trying to make.

 

[delldude]

That was the point I was trying to make.

 
Me too.
 
He has no control of decisions (supposedly) but has the ability to ideologically stack the deck towards the ratio on the bench which in many cases can affect the decisions made.

 

[700UW]

 President Obama has secured enough votes in the Senate to approve the Iran Deal.
 
http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/federal_government/obama-locking-up-votes-in-senate-for-iran-nuclear-deal/2015/09/02/6c32356c-5141-11e5-b225-90edbd49f362_story.html

 

[delldude]

And you're happy?
 

 
Iranian President Hassan Rouhani vowed that the Islamic Republic would violate outstanding United Nations restrictions governing the country’s ballistic missile program and that the behavior would not violate the recent nuclear accord, according to a translation of the leader’s remarks performed by the CIA’s Open Source Center.
http://freebeacon.com/national-security/iran-vows-to-violate-un-restrictions-on-ballistic-missiles/

 
Must be a misprint as they are only using nuclear enrichment for 'peaceful purposes'.

 

[southwind]

And when a terrorist uses a nuke, produced by Iran, at least we'll all know who to blame for speeding up the process!

 

[delldude]

 President Obama has secured enough votes in the Senate to approve the Iran Deal.
 
http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/federal_government/obama-locking-up-votes-in-senate-for-iran-nuclear-deal/2015/09/02/6c32356c-5141-11e5-b225-90edbd49f362_story.html

 

 

[eolesen]

Yeah, I don't think I'd count the votes until they're actually cast.

It only takes one to get cold feet and flip-flop based on the amount of constituent backlash.

 

[Ms Tree]

 

And when a terrorist uses a nuke, produced by Iran, at least we'll all know who to blame for speeding up the process!

 

What about a nuke stolen from Russia or one that is developed with Chinese or NK assistance? Who do we blame then?

I am curious how you explain the fact that Iran has chemical weapons and there have not been any terrorist attacks using these weapons that were linked back to Iran. I would think if your argument were to hold any water that chemical weapons in Irans possession would be a threat. So far. Nothing.

Do you really think Iran has a death wish? Nukes have a fingerprint that can be traced back to its maker. The dictators in Iran want to live. Were a nuclear explosion traced back to Iran, the consequences would be sever. That is not in their best interest.

 

[delldude]

   

What about a nuke stolen from Russia or one that is developed with Chinese or NK assistance? Who do we blame then?

I am curious how you explain the fact that Iran has chemical weapons and there have not been any terrorist attacks using these weapons that were linked back to Iran. I would think if your argument were to hold any water that chemical weapons in Irans possession would be a threat. So far. Nothing.

Do you really think Iran has a death wish? Nukes have a fingerprint that can be traced back to its maker. The dictators in Iran want to live. Were a nuclear explosion traced back to Iran, the consequences would be sever. That is not in their best interest.

 
You know nothing of the 12th Mahdi and the bringing of chaos to usher in a new Muslim world?
 
Nukes are the ticket.

 

[southwind]

BaRack will go down in history as the "New Father of Nuclear Weapons"!

 

[cltrat]

if say the FBI got a search warrant for a suspect and then called said suspect up and said we have a search warrant we'll be by in 24 days to check you out would you consider that a good ideal? yes or no

 

[townpete]

Well thats awkward....
 
Commander: Iran Continues Military Enhancement Until Collapse of Israel

 

[KCFlyer]

And when a terrorist uses a nuke, produced by Iran, at least we'll all know who to blame for speeding up the process!

Who will we blame if the terrorist gets their nukes from a country that needs the money worse than Iran.,.say....North Korea?

 

[Dog Wonder]

Who will we blame if the terrorist gets their nukes from a country that needs the money worse than Iran.,.say....North Korea?

Obama, who is to blame for everything from Bama not being national champs to the body odor of chimpanzees.