US and IRAN...reach NUKE deal !

[Ifly2]

The Judaic part of "our Judeo-Christian heritage" also allows for abortion, with comditions, including the emotional state of the mother.

As do a number of other faiths and beliefs.

Against it, don't do it.

Doesn't give you or anyone to impose your/their morality on eceryone else.

Not in a country where everyone is "free" to live by their own beliefs.


BTW, abortion was yet another off topic deflection.

Even old Benjamin says that this agreement might, maybe, allow Iran to get the bomb in ten years, vice the "less than a year" that was possible without it.

Ten years vs. less than one, to continue "working the problem".

That bears repeating...


Ten years vs. "less than one" to continue workimg the problem

Smartly

 

[777 fixer]

And the kicker?
 
They get to "self inspect" to make sure they are holding themselves to account. Not kidding.

A quick google search would have done you a world a good. But hey, who needs research when you have Rush doing it for you.

http://www.factcheck.org/2015/08/huckabees-spin-on-iran/

We give them billions of US taxpayer dollars. We got nothing

Do you mean the Iranian assets that have been frozen in the US? Because if you are it's not taxpayer money.

http://www.moaablogs.org/battleofthebilge/2015/03/obama-iran-talks/

 

[Ms Tree]

Come on 777, don't do the work for him. One of these folks needs to learn how to look stuff up and verify it. Eolsen, South and Lala dont know how.

 

[Ifly2]

Don't care to know how

DittoHeads

 

[townpete]

A quick google search would have done you a world a good. But hey, who needs research when you have Rush doing it for you.

http://www.factcheck.org/2015/08/huckabees-spin-on-iran/






Do you mean the Iranian assets that have been frozen in the US? Because if you are it's not taxpayer money.

http://www.moaablogs.org/battleofthebilge/2015/03/obama-iran-talks/

 
 
Just so were clear, you posted an article that implodes your defense:
 
That separate agreement has not been made public, but the Associated Press on Aug. 19 wrote that a draft copy of the agreement indicated that “Iran will be allowed to use its own inspectors to investigate.”
 
Amano didn’t explain the inspection process because the agreement is confidential.
 
There is no resolution to this dispute at this point and perhaps there won’t be unless the agreement is made public or if the IAEA fully explains the verification process that it will use at Parchin.
 
Great job buttercup!

 

[Ifly2]

I bet he can't actually read.... 😉

"But this much is clear: Huckabees statement that the nuclear deal lets Iran do their own inspections is at the very least in dispute. And, because he didnt make clear what part of the nuclear deal he was talking about, viewers could have easily been left with the false impression that he was talking about all inspections. That would be wrong."



What rhat means, Peter, is that your boy Huckabee is pulling crap outta' his butt, and usimg it scare the sheeples.

He is either flat out lying,mand there is a Commandment about that, or he don't know shyte from shynola

You pick

 

[Ms Tree]

Pete. Still waiting for the link regarding tax layer money.

 

[townpete]

 

 

 

I bet he can't actually read....  😉

"But this much is clear: Huckabees statement that the nuclear deal lets Iran do their own inspections is at the very least in dispute. And, because he didnt make clear what part of the nuclear deal he was talking about, viewers could have easily been left with the false impression that he was talking about all inspections. That would be wrong."



What rhat means, Peter, is that your boy Huckabee is pulling crap outta' his butt, and usimg it scare the sheeples.

He is either flat out lying,mand there is a Commandment about that, or he don't know shyte from shynola

You pick

 

 
That more like a biased opinion by the author of the article. Obviously you lack the basic critical thinking skills.
 
Again for clarity:
 
Just so were clear, you posted an article that implodes your defense:
 
That separate agreement has not been made public, but the Associated Press on Aug. 19 wrote that a draft copy of the agreement indicated that “Iran will be allowed to use its own inspectors to investigate.”
 
Amano didn’t explain the inspection process because the agreement is confidential.
 
There is no resolution to this dispute at this point and perhaps there won’t be unless the agreement is made public or if the IAEA fully explains the verification process that it will use at Parchin.
 
Great job buttercup!

 

 

[Ifly2]

Parchin is not one of the nuc sites

The experts, that would be the IAEA, are good with it.

That is one side letter on one specific issue, not monitoring or investigation of Iran's nuke program.

Reading for comprehension, babe.

I guess Huckabee knows better.

Probably an angel whispered it in 'is ear, now did he?

Or was it a burning bush sort of thing?

Huckabee is either intentionally misleading people to think that this limited side letter applys to the entire deal/program, or else he is even more ignorant than he appears to be.


And some of y'all, Petey, swallow it straight from the pipe.


Critical Thinking my monkey laden bowels

 

[Ifly2]

"Not only is anytime, anywhere access not necessary, but it’s also not sufficient. In other words, its inclusion might have placated (a few) critics, but it would not be enough, by itself, for effective verification. After all, it would be physically impossible for the IAEA to inspect every building where Iran could conceivably be hiding clandestine nuclear activities.

What the IAEA actually needs is some preliminary evidence about where a secret nuclear facility might be lurking. The much-discussed but little-understood Additional Protocol was developed precisely for that purpose, and the JCPOA obliges Iran to accept it, first voluntarily and subsequently on a legally binding basis. But, the JCPOA goes beyond the Additional Protocol in two innovative and important ways."

 

[Ifly2]

"So, what access provisions does the deal contain?

It does allow the IAEA to go anywhere — including military sites — if there is evidence of undeclared facilities hosting nuclear activities. But, if Iran declined to grant access, a complicated dispute-resolution negotiation process would ensue under which Iran would have to negotiate first with the IAEA and then with the Joint Commission created to oversee implementation of the deal. This process could take up to 24 days. (On day 25, if Iran still refused access, it would be in noncompliance with the agreement, and sanctions could be reintroduced.)

Fortunately for the JCPOA, the refrain of an “anytime, anywhere” access may make for a great sound bite, but its utility is overstated by Cotton and other critics of the agreement. An access delay — even one of 24 days — wouldn’t make any material difference to the IAEA’s ability to detect undeclared nuclear activities.

When IAEA inspectors search for undeclared nuclear activities, they look for tiny traces of nuclear material on surfaces. Fortunately for them, nuclear material lingers. And, modern detection technology is so amazingly effective that minuscule traces of nuclear material can be detected years after nuclear activities took place. Countries have tried to sanitize facilities completely to remove every last trace of nuclear material. Iran did so at the Kalaye Electric Company after its secret nuclear program was revealed in 2002. Syria tried the same thing in 2007 after Israel bombed its plutonium-production reactor at al-Kibar. In both cases, the IAEA still managed to detect nuclear material. Those findings were critical to persuading the organization’s governing body to make a formal finding of noncompliance against both Iran and Syria."

 

[townpete]

Parchin is not one of the nuc sites

The experts, that would be the IAEA, are good with it.

That is one side letter on one specific issue, not monitoring or investigation of Iran's nuke program.

Reading for comprehension, babe.

I guess Huckabee knows better.

Probably an angel whispered it in 'is ear, now did he?

Or was it a burning bush sort of thing?

Huckabee is either intentionally misleading people to think that this limited side letter applys to the entire deal/program, or else he is even more ignorant than he appears to be.


And some of y'all, Petey, swallow it straight from the pipe.


Critical Thinking my monkey laden bowels

Here's some help for you. 
 
Go to Amazon
 
Buy this:
 

 
Then re-read until it sinks in.

 

[Ifly2]

http://foreignpolicy.com/2015/07/16/iran-aint-gonna-sneak-out-under-this-deal-verification-inspections/

Read it Petey,

If you need help with the big words, or the concepts, get some. It is written for those with at least a modicum of comprehension skills.

Turns out Cotton is also either ignorant, or lying, as in using fear for his personal political gain.

Giant freaking shock there.... not!



If you want to debate what this professional, experienced expert has to say about verification, come back with something better than mis or uninformed "opinions" from politicians or the ramblings of those who get paid to peddle fear and coddle the "I just want my country back" crowd.

If you can

 

[Ifly2]

Just like your bible, you should have read it, instead of just waving it around to make yourself think you are fooling people...

 

[Ms Tree]

The fact that you have not provided a link to prove the tax payer money comment seems to indicate that you were making stuff up ...... again. Seems a common trait among conservatives on this site.