US becoming a "will carry" carrier for Hazmat?

[LD3]

These guys know haz mat and see what happened.....

For Immediate Release
August 2, 2000
Contact: Kathleen Bergen
Phone: 404-305-5100 After Hours: 404-305-5180

FAA Proposes $165,000 Penalty Against FedEx for Hazmat Violations


The Federal Aviation Administration, Southern Region, has proposed to assess a $165,000 civil penalty against Federal Express Corp., of Memphis, Tenn. for allegedly violating Department of Transportation hazardous materials regulations.

FAA alleges that the FedEx improperly shipped a fiberboard box containing a chemical oxygen generator on a FedEx cargo flight from Los Angeles to the company's package sorting facility in Memphis where employees discovered the shipment.

FedEx offered the shipment for transportation when it was not packaged, labeled, marked, classed, described, documented, or in condition for shipment as required by regulations. FedEx also failed to ensure employees were trained to properly package and handle hazardous materials, and did not make available at all times the required emergency response information.

FedEx has 30 days from receipt of the FAA notice to submit a reply to the agency. This announcement is made in accordance with the FAA's practice of releasing information to the public on newly issued enforcement actions involving penalties of $50,000 or more.

This is from the DOT FY98 report, not who the shipper is...

US AIRWAYS, INC.(Shipper)
Offered hazardous materials without properly marking the package with the proper
shipping names and technical descriptions of the materials, full name and address of
the shipper and consignee, and UN identification number; offered hazardous materials
without required shipping papers; accepted a shipment of dangerous goods with a
discrepancy between the airbill and the shipping papers. [171.2(a), 171.11(a), 175.3,
175.30(a)(2)-(3), 175.35(a), ICAO 4;2.4.2] Case No. 97EA740046, 97EA740047,
97EA740048, 97EA740049, 97EA740051, 97EA740052
$14,000

 

[700UW]

So you would rather spend a few million on FedEx and Air Taxis and inconvience passengers then to take the risk of an improper shipment and a fine?

Nothing is perfect but you need to realize how many aircraft parts are being shipped via FedEx and Air Taxi when it could be put on US' own plane.

Plus accepting hazmat from shippers is added revenue.

 

[necigrad]

Considering I've seen Hazmat go on non Hazmat carriers before I fail to see how fines are a factor. If you're a "will carry" and you screw up you get fined. If oy'ure a "will not carry" and you screw up you get fined. Might as well make extra money.

 

[whatkindoffreshhell]

So you would rather spend a few million on FedEx and Air Taxis and inconvience passengers then to take the risk of an improper shipment and a fine?

Nothing is perfect but you need to realize how many aircraft parts are being shipped via FedEx and Air Taxi when it could be put on US' own plane.

Plus accepting hazmat from shippers is added revenue.

Valuejet. Class 5.1 oxidizers. Improper loading by untrained personnel. Hundreds of deaths.

You and necigrad are very dangerous with your ignorance.

You should shut up now.

 

[Hope777]

All, In a recent Training Class, there was mention of Hazmat being carried in the near future. As 700 said, it is to cut costs of shipping Maintnenance related items. We are spending too much money to Fed Ex. Also mentioned was that the company was looking into shipping live animals once again. Problem being that some of the old HP aircraft do not have heated cargo bins which does cause scheduling problems.

 

[LGA777]

I find it ironic that this thread was started on the 12 year anniversary of the very tragic Valujet 592 crash near Miami that was caused by Haz Mat comat that should have not been on the aircraft igniting.

http://www.airdisaster.com/photos/vj592/photo.shtml

RIP to the 112 souls who lost their lives 12 years ago.

LGA777

 

[FWAAA]

So you would rather spend a few million on FedEx and Air Taxis and inconvience passengers then to take the risk of an improper shipment and a fine?

Nothing is perfect but you need to realize how many aircraft parts are being shipped via FedEx and Air Taxi when it could be put on US' own plane.

Plus accepting hazmat from shippers is added revenue.

The upside to using FedEx is that you know your part is gonna get there when FedEx says it will.

With US, not so sure.

Of all the things to outsource, this one makes some sense.

 

[LD3]

So you would rather spend a few million on FedEx and Air Taxis and inconvience passengers then to take the risk of an improper shipment and a fine?

Nothing is perfect but you need to realize how many aircraft parts are being shipped via FedEx and Air Taxi when it could be put on US' own plane.Plus accepting hazmat from shippers is added revenue.

I am not sure I am following you, at first you seem to make the claim that in the East your checks and balances would prevent any mishapes...but now "nothing is perfect".

Considering I've seen Hazmat go on non Hazmat carriers before I fail to see how fines are a factor. If you're a "will carry" and you screw up you get fined. If oy'ure a "will not carry" and you screw up you get fined. Might as well make extra money.

This has to be the dumbest reply ever posted....You stood by while witnessing violations? You're no better than a criminal. And what makes you think that the Feds will stop at just fines, I am pretty sure that the Feds can revoke the carriers OC if the violation(s) are serious enough to cause severe damage and/or death....

 

[700UW]

There is nothing perfect in this world, but the checks and balances are in place to prevent this from happening.

My time in Stores, we never had any problems when shipping hazmat on our flights.

And we sent out hundreds of parts a day that are hazmat.

 

[Theo Corner]

There is nothing perfect in this world, but the checks and balances are in place to prevent this from happening.

My time in Stores, we never had any problems when shipping hazmat on our flights.

And we sent out hundreds of parts a day that are hazmat.

I am pretty sure we will be starting it up again. This year I had to take the Haz Goods test again. Have not had to take that since we stopped carrying it.

Just my 2 cents worth.

😛h34r:

 

[necigrad]

Valuejet. Class 5.1 oxidizers. Improper loading by untrained personnel. Hundreds of deaths.

You and necigrad are very dangerous with your ignorance.

You should shut up now.

I'm just stating facts. There is no ignorance involved at all except maybe on your part. The persons loading the cargo had no idea what was in the cargo because it was improperly labeled. The person that PACKED the shipment caused the problem.

I find it ironic that this thread was started on the 12 year anniversary of the very tragic Valujet 592 crash near Miami that was caused by Haz Mat comat that should have not been on the aircraft igniting.

http://www.airdisaster.com/photos/vj592/photo.shtml

RIP to the 112 souls who lost their lives 12 years ago.

LGA777

I wish I picked up on that sooner. It was just a coincidence and had I realised I would not have done so.

This has to be the dumbest reply ever posted....You stood by while witnessing violations? You're no better than a criminal. And what makes you think that the Feds will stop at just fines, I am pretty sure that the Feds can revoke the carriers OC if the violation(s) are serious enough to cause severe damage and/or death....

No, I did not "stand by". It was reported. And I didn't see anything until after the fact so was unable to prevent it. I've denied shipments as an HP employee because of a lable for a bottle of bleach on the outside of a box. The box was full of the labels, not bleach. I denied it anyway as I'm fully aware of the policies which you imply I'm not. My point is that mistakes and accidents WILL happen. Being a "will carry" or "will not carry" carrier does not change that one bit.