USAir Pilots sue AA pilots

I wonder if the APA will take some of the pilots equity shares to defend the lawsuit.  B)
 
  • Like
Reactions: 1 person
AANOTOK said:
I wonder if the APA will take some of the pilots equity shares to defend the lawsuit.  B)
Hmmm....Maybe they can consult with the TWU on how to properly take away their members' shares!
 
  • Like
Reactions: 2 people
It's official. The lawyers win.

Good choice. At least you can all look forward to many more years of pissing, moaning, and general displeasure with your fellow pilots (unless you end up screwing the other guy before (s)he screws you first).

Lovely.
 
  • Like
Reactions: 5 people
It would be safe to say that the USAPA conscripts out West don't support this lawsuit against the APA.
 
  • Like
Reactions: 2 people
nycbusdriver said:
They've been irrelevant for almost 9 years now.  They just haven't figured that fact out yet.
What is relevant is the fact the end of USAPA will be brought to you courtesy of the APA.
 
  • Like
Reactions: 1 person
nycbusdriver said:
 
They've been irrelevant for almost 9 years now.  They just haven't figured that fact out yet.
 
USAPA's been irrelevant since it's inception. 
 
It took a merger and APA to get us off the lowest compensation in the industry.
 
  • Like
Reactions: 2 people
USAPA needs to go away the sooner they better for everyone involved including the east pilots. The only think USAPA represents is their leadership and lawyers.
Why doesn't APA forget any kind of negotiations (Not like USAPA is honest and would honor it anyway) and just call for a new represntative vote from all Pilots?
 
  • Like
Reactions: 3 people
UPNAWAY said:
USAPA needs to go away the sooner they better for everyone involved including the east pilots. The only think USAPA represents is their leadership and lawyers.
Why doesn't APA forget any kind of negotiations (Not like USAPA is honest and would honor it anyway) and just call for a new represntative vote from all Pilots?
We don't need two pilot unions on this property. One needs to take a hint.
 
The company's response in part. Key word: contumacious

Case 2:13-cv-00471-ROS Document 303 Filed 03/03/14
Consistent with this Court’s observation, “USAPA [has] change[d] its position when it needs to do so to fit its hard and unyielding view on seniority.” (Doc. No. 298 at 20:23-21:1.) Although it obviously does not agree with this Court’s ruling that it has no right to participate in the seniority-integration process once it is decertified as the
collective bargaining representative for the pre-merger US Airways pilots, USAPA should be expected to abide by this Court’s Order or, alternatively, seek relief from that Order with a proper motion of its own. USAPA’s request to delete the additional statements from this Court’s Order will only facilitate further contumacious behavior on its part. The request should be denied.

contumacious[ kon-too-mey-shuhs, -tyoo- ]
adjective
1. stubbornly perverse or rebellious; willfully and obstinately disobedient

Synonyms: alienated, contrary, disaffected, estranged, factious, froward, haughty, inflexible, insubordinate, insurgent, intractable, intransigent, irreconcilable, mutinous, obdurate, perverse, pig-headed, rebellious, recalcitrant, refractory, seditious, stubborn, unyielding
 
  • Like
Reactions: 3 people
Don't need two unions and there won't be two unions. But until the pilots are integrated, there won't be any staplers either. That's why McCaskill-Bond was passed in the first place and APA behavior was the precisely the reason. Two distinct and separate pilot groups represented by two different unions existed prior to this merger. The M-B law fully applies to this transaction. If one union is subsequently decertified, the employee group is still entitled by law to separate representation which is independent and autonomous. Those representational duties would continue to be discharged by the USAirways Merger Committee (formerly USAPA Merger Committee).

Nothing in the MOU relinquishes these rights and the timeline for single carrier status is clearly stipulated as 6-8 months after petitioning the NMB. APA and AAG are hoping it will happen much sooner. But in a contest between federal law and MOU loophole, the law wields the larger gavel.

Otherwise, Senators McCaskill and Bond wasted their efforts.
 
  • Like
Reactions: 3 people