USAPA/ALPA US Pilot Labor Thread 5/10-5/17

[sharktooth]

BTW didn't the UCRAPA supporters claim there would be no previous ALPA folk put into positions of leadership or counsel?

I asked you once, now twice. Where did you get that? Please show.

Seems you and that LAS rep who thinks ALPA is still here, make a lot of stuff up. Are you one and the same?

 

[Richard]

Let me remind you all one more time, that there is to be no name calling or other inflammatory language on these boards.
That goes for the word "scab" as directed at an individual, AND it goes for UCRAPA too, as well as ALPO.

Use the correct name of the union or nothing at all.

Thank you.

 

[767jetz]

And don't give me your selfrighteous BS about how you dont let these things get to you... Look at your post count! You are melting down the keyboard friend...

Not only his post count. Don't forget all the PM's he sends to all the people he admires, like me! Definitely burning the midnight oil at the keyboard. It was quite entertaining until I started ignoring him.

 

[BottomFeeder]

Not only his post count. Don't forget all the PM's he sends to all the people he admires, like me! Definitely burning the midnight oil at the keyboard. It was quite entertaining until I started ignoring him.

Entertaining would be how many times you have been wrong. USA320 can't hold a candle to the United Spin Master. I have often wondered if they (USA320 & 767Jetz) are the same guy.

Cheers

 

[Richard]

One more time,

Discuss the issues not the posters.

The next personally directed comment gets time off and the thread closed for a week.

Come on now.......

 

[hp_fa]

One or two weeks ago I posted regarding possible disenfranchisement of West pilots by the possiblity of having out-of-base representatives, which would potentially allow a rep to "represent" 200 East pilots and 100 West pilots. (An extreme example for the purpose of illustration.) I was then told that my information was incorrect. So, while looking up something else today I found this, which shows where I had first seen this mentioned and where I had obtained the information that I had discussed.

 

[commuter]

It's this kind of leadership, or lack of, that has helped to boot ALPA off the property. Though some Reps our still up to their same old tricks, they've effectively been neutered, fortunately for the entire pilot group. This type of leadership is doomed to failure.


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[prechilill]

It's this kind of leadership, or lack of, that has helped to boot ALPA off the property. Though some Reps our still up to their same old tricks, they've effectively been neutered, fortunately for the entire pilot group. This type of leadership is doomed to failure.

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Commuter, you really demonstrate low class for 1) posting private emails and 2) posting something with profanity.

 

[commuter]

One or two weeks ago I posted regarding possible disenfranchisement of West pilots by the possiblity of having out-of-base representatives, which would potentially allow a rep to "represent" 200 East pilots and 100 West pilots. (An extreme example for the purpose of illustration.) I was then told that my information was incorrect. So, while looking up something else today I found this, which shows where I had first seen this mentioned and where I had obtained the information that I had discussed.

There are pilots from the west coming forward, volunteering to represent PHX, and I believe you will see a PHX pilot on the USAPA BPR in the near future. The actual number of BPR representatives of a base are a direct reflection of the number of actual members of that base. The structure is a minimum of 1 and a maximum of 3.

All pilots must pay dues in order to maintain employment, however, to become a member actually requires a pilot to fill out a membership card. Before you say it, I am sure that many pilots who are unhappy with the vote will refuse to pay dues initially, but it will only take a few "examples" and the dues will begin flowing.

 

[commuter]

Commuter, you really demonstrate low class for 1) posting private emails and 2) posting something with profanity.

This position that this pilot representative (ex) has does not in anyway appear "private" to me and I fail to see the profanity. I will tell you this, if it was not stated by this rep then I will gladly pull it down and apologize. Fair enough?

I couldn't help but notice you didn't respond to the issue, rather you attempted to make me look like the bad guy........ 🙄 I didn't say it, and he represented you, not me. So tell me, your thoughts on his leadership? Any?

P.S. The source is U-Turn, which has a public newsletter with 9000 plus subscribers, hardly private.

 

[prechilill]

This position that this pilot representative (ex) has does not in anyway appear "private" to me and I fail to see the profanity. I will tell you this, if it was not stated by this rep then I will gladly pull it down and apologize. Fair enough?

I couldn't help but notice you didn't respond to the issue, rather you attempted to make me look like the bad guy........ 🙄 I didn't say it, and he represented you, not me. So tell me, your thoughts on his leadership? Any?

Take a look at the last line- perhaps you have your own ideas of morality as well in your secluded eastie-world because we already know you selectively honor agreements to suit your needs. And yes, regardless of what you may think, it is truly tasteless of you to post somebody's name as well as their personal email. You really are a piece of work...

 

[AAA73Pilot]

One or two weeks ago I posted regarding possible disenfranchisement of West pilots by the possiblity of having out-of-base representatives, which would potentially allow a rep to "represent" 200 East pilots and 100 West pilots. (An extreme example for the purpose of illustration.) I was then told that my information was incorrect. So, while looking up something else today I found this, which shows where I had first seen this mentioned and where I had obtained the information that I had discussed.

Thanks for taking the time to research my posts. At the time it was written, it was the "proposal". Later that fall as the effort was gaining momentum, the policies were fluid to accomodate new supporters. I still like the block representation as proposed in the beginning. If we were discussing this back in Sept. then your information was correct. Now we are discussing this today and things have changed. I guess you missed all those posts in between. Oh well.

 

[hp_fa]

It wasn't really aimed at you, just those that may have questioned my reading and comprehension ability. 🙂

I'll tell you what I was looking for when I found that, and that was something posted, perhaps by you, that said that USAPA would not allow any ALPA rep (or other position holder) to be a USAPA rep (or position holder) for a period of one year. I know I saw that somewhere and I am looking for it because a poster is asking where another poster saw it, and I know that I had seen the same thing.

 

[AAA73Pilot]

Take a look at the last line- perhaps you have your own ideas of morality as well in your secluded eastie-world because we already know you selectively honor agreements to suit your needs. And yes, regardless of what you may think, it is truly tasteless of you to post somebody's name as well as their personal email. You really are a piece of work...

Actually it wasn't tasteless. It is in the public domain and needs to be discussed. When a leader or ex-leader of ALPA sends information out, it is bound to happen that disparaging remarks makes it to those he / she is disparaging. I received a copy of it from a UAL friend. What is most telling is the childishness coupled with adult venom in the body of the text. Even more telling is the signature. As if ALPA is going to make it all happen to suit his particular view. I can only think the writer needs to get a grip on reality.

 

[Richard]

Folks,

You are getting to the point where you might be able to thank Prechili for getting this thread closed for a week.

What part of DON'T MAKE IT PERSONAL don't you people understand? Calling someone a piece of work is a PERSONAL remark.

You're pushing your luck here people.