Venezuela may kick US Rep out

Why would you that? Don't you believe in free speech? Only if it's government sanctioned, right?
If Thomas Jefferson were alive today I'm sure he'd be on a government watch list or probably in Guantanamo in an orange jumpsuit; after all he wrote the following un-American (by todays standards)inflamatory and dangerous words:

"We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness. That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness."

9/11? Nineteen cave dwellers outsmarted NORAD?What a joke! With the U.S. southern border so open that you could march a division of Chinese troops through yet no terrorists have snuck in? Please!
Oh thats right, I forgot. We're fighting terrorists Iraq so we won't have to fight them over here. I bet you buy that crock of shite too.

Funny! The radical Islamic fundamentalists don't believe all men are created equal. How do you suggest we deal with radical Islam, Norton pal O mine?

And yes, cave dwellers did outsmart us. The planning was done long before Bush took office. It is no secret that Clinton had three chances to take Osama out. THREE CHANCES?

So you can rightfully fault Bush for letting it happen after only 8 months in office,BUT you should lay equal blame on Clinton who had 8 YEARS TO GET THIS GUY.
you can go even further back and put all the blame on Jimmy Carter who was the presidentat the time and who tied the hands of the CIA and FBI because he didn't want the feds to "listen in" on islamists setting up shop in Mosques in this country. He was such a holier than thou bible toter, he didn't want the CIA dealing with such "bad" people in the world to collect intelligence.


And for you final comment, I do not believe that we are fighting them in Iraq so we don't have to fight them here. I believe our borders should be secured with the help of US troops. Some of the 9/11 boys came in through our northern border with Canada. But there are democrats who agree with Bush on the immigration policy. So what do you think is going to happen?
 
Funny! The radical Islamic fundamentalists don't believe all men are created equal. How do you suggest we deal with radical Islam, Norton pal O mine?

And yes, cave dwellers did outsmart us. The planning was done long before Bush took office. It is no secret that Clinton had three chances to take Osama out. THREE CHANCES?

So you can rightfully fault Bush for letting it happen after only 8 months in office,BUT you should lay equal blame on Clinton who had 8 YEARS TO GET THIS GUY.
you can go even further back and put all the blame on Jimmy Carter who was the presidentat the time and who tied the hands of the CIA and FBI because he didn't want the feds to "listen in" on islamists setting up shop in Mosques in this country. He was such a holier than thou bible toter, he didn't want the CIA dealing with such "bad" people in the world to collect intelligence.
And for you final comment, I do not believe that we are fighting them in Iraq so we don't have to fight them here. I believe our borders should be secured with the help of US troops. Some of the 9/11 boys came in through our northern border with Canada. But there are democrats who agree with Bush on the immigration policy. So what do you think is going to happen?


I noticed you left out Regan for supporting OBL in the fight against Russia and then dumping him when it became inconvenient. I am sure that was just an over sight right?
Also, I thought I recalled Clinton going in after someone but being accused of trying to divert attention from the “sexâ€￾ scandal.
 
I noticed you left out Regan for supporting OBL in the fight against Russia and then dumping him when it became inconvenient. I am sure that was just an over sight right?
Also, I thought I recalled Clinton going in after someone but being accused of trying to divert attention from the “sexâ€￾ scandal.


Yes, good point! We even supported Saddam against IRAN.

You know the saying! "The enemy of my enemy is my friend!"
 
:unsure: Atlantic City F-16 Fighters Were Eight Minutes Away From 9/11 Hijacked Planes

North Jersey Media Group

As two hijacked jetliners bore down on New York City's World Trade Center on the morning of Sept. 11, 2001, two Air Force F-16 jet fighters were practicing bombing runs over an empty stretch of the Pine Barrens near Atlantic City.

The F-16 pilots had no idea of the impending tragedy in Manhattan, just eight minutes away in their supersonic jets.

Why? Why weren't they alerted? And even if they had been told about the hijackings, what could they have done?

The jets weren't armed to shoot down another plane. Their mission was bombing drills. Why?

Those questions and others loom at the heart of an even larger mystery: How could America's elaborate air defense system of satellites, radar, and supersonic fighters be caught so off-guard on Sept. 11? The mystery is now at the center of one of the most secret - and politically explosive - investigations being conducted by the bipartisan Sept. 11 commission...

But the 177th's jets were not on alert Sept. 11. A series of Pentagon cutbacks, beginning in 1998, changed the wing's mission from scramble-ready status to dropping bombs on enemy positions. In 2000, after two years of training, the 177th was even sent to Saudi Arabia to fly patrols over southern Iraq as part of Operation Southern Watch.
By Sept. 11, the unit was back in New Jersey - but still training to bomb enemy targets overseas...

"Isn't that something?" asked Lt. Luz Aponte, the 177th's public affairs officer, pointing out the irony of having jet fighters so near to the tragedy but with a mission so far afield.
Soon after two hijacked commercial jetliners slammed into the Twin Towers in lower Manhattan, Aponte said, the two F-16s landed and were refitted with air-to-air missiles, then sent aloft. But that happened more than an hour after the trade center attacks.
Such irony - and tragedy - is not lost on the commission.
"We want to know why the jets at Pomona were decommissioned," said John Farmer, a former New Jersey attorney general now on the commission's Manhattan staff.
An even larger concern is why fighters at other Air Force bases were not scrambled fast enough to protect New York City after the Federal Aviation Administration learned about the hijackings.

"That's a big question," Kean said in a recent interview...
NORAD confirmed it had only eight fighters on the East Coast for emergency scrambles on Sept. 11. Throughout Canada and the United States, including Alaska, NORAD had 20 fighters on alert - armed, fueled up, and ready to fly in minutes. Four years earlier, NORAD could count on having 175 jets ready to scramble, including two on the tarmac at Atlantic City's airport.
With the New Jersey Air National Guard's 17 F-16s out of the picture on Sept. 11, the commission is trying to assess why the Pentagon left what seems to be a yawning gap in the midsection of its air defenses on the East Coast - a gap with New York City at the center. Since Sept. 11, the 177th has been back on alert status, with its pilots logging hundreds of hours of patrols above New York City and along the East Coast.

NORAD also has confirmed it was running two mock drills on Sept. 11 at various radar sites and command centers in the United States and Canada, including Air Force bases in upstate New York, Florida, Washington, and Alaska. One drill, Operation Vigilant Guardian, began a week before Sept. 11 and reflected a Cold War mind-set: Participants practiced for an attack across the North Pole by Russian forces.

A NORAD spokesman noted, however, that the drills might have helped the command gear up quickly to respond to the Sept. 11 attacks because its command posts were already staffed.

"It was quite fortuitous," said Maj. Douglas Martin of the Canadian Army and spokesman at NORAD headquarters in Colorado Springs, Colo.

"The toughest thing for anyone is that we're using Sept. 12 eyes to dissect Sept. 11," he added. "No one is using Sept. 11 eyes."

Investigators at the Sept. 11 commission confirm they are investigating whether NORAD's attention was drawn in one direction - toward the North Pole - while the hijackings came from an entirely different direction.

"We are pursing this area very, very diligently," said Richard Ben-Veniste, a former Watergate prosecutor who is one of 10 members of Kean's bipartisan commission.

NORAD is not the only target, however.

The commission is also looking into why it took about 20 minutes for civilian air traffic controllers to notify NORAD of the hijackings.

"We are in the process of interviewing pilots," a commission staffer said.

Even after learning of the hijackings, it took six minutes for NORAD to order F-15 fighters into the sky from Otis Air National Guard Base on Cape Cod - the "alert" base nearest to New York. After that, it took another six minutes for the jets to roar down the runway.

Then it took the jets 19 minutes to reach New York, raising this question: Did they fly at full throttle? At a top speed of almost 1,200 mph, an F-15 can reach Manhattan from Cape Cod in less than 12 minutes, NORAD says. Why did it take 19 minutes? By then, it was too late.
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:shock: :shock: London Underground Bombing 'Exercises' Took Place at Same Time as Real Attack
Culpability cover scenario echoes 9/11 wargames


Paul Joseph Watson & Alex Jones/Prison Planet | Updated July 13 2005


A consultancy agency with government and police connections was running an exercise for an unnamed company that revolved around the London Underground being bombed at the exact same times and locations as happened in real life on the morning of July 7th.

On a BBC Radio 5 interview that aired on the evening of the 7th, the host interviewed Peter Power, Managing Director of Visor Consultants, which bills itself as a 'crisis management' advice company, better known to you and I as a PR firm.

Peter Power was a former Scotland Yard official, working at one time with the Anti Terrorist Branch.

Power told the host that at the exact same time that the London bombings were taking place, his company was running a 1,000 person strong exercise which drilled the London Underground being bombed at the exact same locations, at the exact same times, as happened in real life.

THE TRANSCRIPT IS AS FOLLOWS.

POWER: At half past nine this morning we were actually running an exercise for a company of over a thousand people in London based on simultaneous bombs going off precisely at the railway stations where it happened this morning, so I still have the hairs on the back of my neck standing up right now.

HOST: To get this quite straight, you were running an exercise to see how you would cope with this and it happened while you were running the exercise?

POWER: Precisely, and it was about half past nine this morning, we planned this for a company and for obvious reasons I don't want to reveal their name but they're listening and they'll know it. And we had a room full of crisis managers for the first time they'd met and so within five minutes we made a pretty rapid decision that this is the real one and so we went through the correct drills of activating crisis management procedures to jump from slow time to quick time thinking and so on.


Click here for a clip of this dialogue. Click here for a longer clip where the comments can be heard in their full context.

The fact that the exercise mirrored the exact locations and times of the bombings is light years beyond a coincidence. Power said the drill focused around 'simultaneous bombings'. At first the bombings were thought to have been spread over an hour, but the BBC reports just today that the bombings were in fact simultaneous.



Mr. Power (pictured above) and Visor Consultants need not have been 'in on the bombing' or anything of that nature for this to be of importance. The British government or one of their private company offshoots could have hired Visor to run the exercise for a number of purposes.

We are not suggesting that Mr. Power had any knowledge of the real purpose of the exercise, and the open shock he exclaims in relating the story underlines this.

The exercise fulfils several different goals. It acts as a cover for the small compartamentalized government terrorists to carry out their operation without the larger security services becoming aware of what they're doing, and, more importantly, if they get caught during the attack or after with any incriminating evidence they can just claim that they were just taking part in the exercise.

This is precisely what happened on the morning of 9/11/2001. The CIA was conducting drills of flying hijacked planes into the WTC and Pentagon at 8:30 in the morning.

It is clear that at least five if not six training exercises were in operation in the days leading up to and on the morning of 9/11. This meant that NORAD radar screens showed as many as 22 hijacked airliners at the same time. NORAD had been briefed that this was part of the exercise drill and therefore normal reactive procedure was forestalled and delayed.

The large numbers of 'blips' on NORAD screens that displayed both real and 'drill' hijacked planes explain why confused press reports emerged hours after the attack stating that up to eight planes had been hijacked.

The Anglo-American establishment that controls the military-industrial complex of the West has been caught over a hundred times carrying out bombings and other terrorist attacks around the world to further their corporate aims and to blame their enemies.

The US government has been caught planning to carry out attacks and carrying out attacks. The British government has been caught red-handed as well. Members of Vladimir Putin's FSB were caught planting bombs in a Russian apartment building in 1999 by the Moscow police.

This is not speculation. Kermit Roosevelt admited on NPR radio that in 1953 the CIA and British intelligence carried out a wave of bombings and shootings in Iran. He then went on to brag about how they subsequently blamed the bombings on Iran's President, Mossadegh. Do you understand, these people brag about what they do 40 years later?

The London bombings have the same signature as the Madrild bombings of 3/11. Both of these bombings are almost indistinguishable from the Bolognia bombing in 1980 that killed over 80 people.



The bombing in Bolognia was part of a CIA operation code named Gladio, where the US government would pay right-wing terrorists to carry out bombings to be blamed on leftists in Europe. All of this was blown wide open when two of the Bolognia bombers were convited in an Italian court, forcing them to spill their guts admitting that they were neo-fascists contracted by the CIA. Operation Gladio documents have since been declassified.

The London terror alert level was lowered before the bombings took place. This gave the purpotrators extra cover to plan and execute the attack without having to evade the most stringent security.

In any crime you look at history and motive, The British government has been caught in multiple examples of carrying out bombings in London which were then blamed on the IRA. They even had one of their own MI5 agents wihin the Omagh bomb squad. Click here for an archive of this evidence.

The wider agenda will become clearer when Blair firmly points the finger at the selected patsies designated to take the fall. But for the moment he's happy to grandstand as the courageous leader who immedately returned to London to take control of the chaos.

BBC polls that were showing 80 per cent plus opposed the ID card will now likely flip back in the opposite direction. Support for the European Union and increased globalization through the G8 will rise. Who stands to gain from all this? Who has the motive?

From Putin blowing up his own apartment buildings to Israel being behind Hamas, the evidence is consistently clear that large scale terrorism is always state sponsored.

The Madrid train bombing is another example. The bombers were found to be police informants with close links to the Spanish security services. They had access to the most secure areas of the Madrid train system. The Spanish government initially tried to blaim the Basque group ETA for the blast in the hope that the people would rally behind the government and get them re-elected. After ETA denied involvement and the people started saying the government was involved, the Spanish government had to blame Al-Qaeda and kill some patsies by claiming they blew themselves up during a raid.

The London Underground exercises were used as the fallback cover to carry out the attack. This is the biggest smoking gun yet pointing directly to the most secretive levels of the British establishment itself being behind the attack.

More on this story as and when it develops.

WHAT A COINCIDENCE!
ISLAMIST RADICALS MY ASS!
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Hate to say it ED, but you need to share the weed with the rest of us……… :p

B) UT
 
You can't make this shite up, brother. Look into it yourself. Its all documented. B)
Can you handle the truth?

Everything (yes Judy, Everything) can be made up, fabricated, culminated and documented by numerous refutable sources. Just ‘cause’ it’s on the net does not make it real. If you (or any of your nut-case brethren) truly believe, and have empirical proof that 911 was a fabricated event wherein our government was involved, and sit still with that data and that belief, then you ‘all’ do a disservice to yourself and our country.

Otherwise, please disperse with your theorem’s and hypothetical’s, or tell it to Freud.

B) UT
 
Everything (yes Judy, Everything) can be made up, fabricated, culminated and documented by numerous refutable sources. Just ‘cause’ it’s on the net does not make it real.
Really? Halleluyah what an epiphany. I'm glad you set me straight on that! :shock:

If you (or any of your nut-case brethren...)
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Doubt you've done any reading on the matter and you chose to remain uninformed so you resort to name calling. Typical. Ignore the argument and smear the messenger. Talk about parroting. You sound like that #### Bill O'reilly.
... truly believe, and have empirical proof that 911 was a fabricated event wherein our government was involved, and sit still with that data and that belief, then you ‘all’ do a disservice to yourself and our country.
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There are numerous reputable individuals who do not believe the government fairy tale. Here's a few nut-case brethren: Former assistant Treasury Secretary during the Reagan administration and former associate editor of the Wall Street Journal and National Review Paul Craig Roberts. Former Naval officer assigned to NSA in Reagan administration and investigative journalist Wayne Madsen. BYU physics professor Steven Jones. Former Democratic congresswoman form Georgia, Cynthia McKinney. Republican congressman and presidential candidate Ron Paul of Texas, Hollywood film makers Aaron Russo and David Lynch, movie star Charlie Sheen (maybe not so reputable!), among others.
Otherwise, please disperse with your theorem’s and hypothetical’s, or tell it to Freud.B) UT
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Maybe you should stop being intellectualy lazy and see if these "theorem’s and hypothetical’s" have any merit before lambasting a disenting opinion.
I am presenting my point of view which I have attained through my own research. There's alot of bull shite out there. Some goofballs claim no planes hit the twin towers, space beams, UFOs and of course the ever popular among the skin head/klan/neo-nazi bloc: the jews did it.
You don't have to believe me. I don't want you to to believe me. Look into it yourself and make up your own mind. You won't find much on CNN or FOX. As you may or may not choose to believe, the corporate control media is the propaganda arm of the Corporate Empire.
Start with WTC building 7. No airplanes hit it, far enough away from the towers so as they didn't fall on it. Somehow a fire started and it collapsed. Look at footage of its collapse and you see how the building buckles and falls on its own footprint, much like a controlled demolition. Before 9/11 there have been no steel frame buildings made to collapse by fire alone, after 9/11 only three. Like I said. Don't believe me. Find out for yourself.
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B) Its just a conspiracy, brother.
 
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Everything (yes Judy, Everything) can be made up, fabricated, culminated and documented by numerous refutable sources. Just ‘cause’ it’s on the net does not make it real.

Really? Halleluyah what an epiphany. I'm glad you set me straight on that!

You are welcome, hope it helps your future decision making process.

If you (or any of your nut-case brethren...)

Doubt you've done any reading on the matter and you chose to remain uninformed so you resort to name calling. Typical. Ignore the argument and smear the messenger. Talk about parroting. You sound like that #### Bill O'reilly.

So, I am uninformed because I do not agree? Yes, I do refer to your and your brethren as ‘nut-cases'. Why is that? Because our three branches of government can not agree on anything much less a conspiracy to act as a unified collusion to the fabrication of the 911 events. All this without a ‘deep throat’ would be impossible as someone would sell out someone else (they are politicians) to gain an advantage. (sound like a parrot to you?)
BTW, Jerry Doyle

... truly believe, and have empirical proof that 911 was a fabricated event wherein our government was involved, and sit still with that data and that belief, then you ‘all’ do a disservice to yourself and our country.

There are numerous reputable individuals who do not believe the government fairy tale. Here's a few nut-case brethren: Former assistant Treasury Secretary during the Reagan administration and former associate editor of the Wall Street Journal and National Review Paul Craig Roberts. Former Naval officer assigned to NSA in Reagan administration and investigative journalist Wayne Madsen. BYU physics professor Steven Jones. Former Democratic congresswoman form Georgia, Cynthia McKinney. Republican congressman and presidential candidate Ron Paul of Texas, Hollywood film makers Aaron Russo and David Lynch, movie star Charlie Sheen (maybe not so reputable!), among others.

Yea, I’m a believer now……… :p

Otherwise, please disperse with your theorem’s and hypothetical’s, or tell it to Freud. UT

Maybe you should stop being intellectualy lazy and see if these "theorem’s and hypothetical’s" have any merit before lambasting a disenting opinion.
I am presenting my point of view which I have attained through my own research. There's alot of bull shite out there. Some goofballs claim no planes hit the twin towers, space beams, UFOs and of course the ever popular among the skin head/klan/neo-nazi bloc: the jews did it.
You don't have to believe me. I don't want you to to believe me. Look into it yourself and make up your own mind. You won't find much on CNN or FOX. As you may or may not choose to believe, the corporate control media is the propaganda arm of the Corporate Empire.
Start with WTC building 7. No airplanes hit it, far enough away from the towers so as they didn't fall on it. Somehow a fire started and it collapsed. Look at footage of its collapse and you see how the building buckles and falls on its own footprint, much like a controlled demolition. Before 9/11 there have been no steel frame buildings made to collapse by fire alone, after 9/11 only three. Like I said. Don't believe me. Find out for yourself.

Don’t worry, I don’t believe you. Not because of what I 'THINK' but because there is no 'PROOF'. :blink:

Is this a Camel Toe:
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ZZZZZZZZZZZ.....go back to sleep..........good Christian George Bush will protect you from the Muslim "evildoers"...........ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ :down: :down:

Dude Im not the one who cleaves to conspiracy theories, believe it or not things happening in the world can be attributed to sources other than 'George Bush'.

Ive beat the Muslim "evildoers" drum all I intend to, but when the time comes and it will I wont be the one sleeping....ZZZZZZZZZZZZ! ;)

Don’t worry, I don’t believe you. Not because of what I 'THINK' but because there is no 'PROOF'. :blink:

Is this a Camel Toe:
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or is this?

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