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Ward Lost

That's all I heard.
It appears about 77.9% of the f/a corps voted. Glading leads Ward by over a 1,000 at this moment. John Ward's campaign website has broken down the count by base and division.
Art in Miami
 
From a TWU perspective,

It must be a proud Union Moment when an Individual Union Member is allowed to actually vote for the top level of the Union Leadership that decides the conduct of the memberships' future.

BZ

Regards,
Boomer
 
From a TWU perspective,

It must be a proud Union Moment when an Individual Union Member is allowed to actually vote for the top level of the Union Leadership that decides the conduct of the memberships' future.

BZ

Regards,
Boomer


I hope all can put their differences aside for the good of the whole. It takes strong people to put themselves in the position to run for national office. To be truly successful the new leaders should utilize the experience of all the different (or perceived) factions. Best of luck to the new leaders of the APFA.
 
Later days wAArdo!

Here are the final totals from the WINNERS website:



President:

Glading - 6420


Ward - 5363


Vice-President:

Durkin - 6413


McIntyre - 5279


Secretary:

Pointer - 6078


Geiss - 5579


Treasurer:

Barerra - 6072


Gunter - 5604


The membership has spoken!
 
Big article posted yesterday about the election. Some interesting quotes:

Glading said she will demand that flight attendants get those concessions back this year "with interest." That could set the union on a collision course with management, which says American is already at a labor cost disadvantage with other airlines.

"It's been five years since we made those significant concessions, and the cost of living has gone up," Glading said. "We can recover all those things and make significant gains."

http://biz.yahoo.com/ap/080227/american_ai..._vote.html?.v=1

No mention of where the money comes from to recover it all plus "make significant gains." Might as well say "we'll settle for nothing less than a 55% increase." Or maybe 100%.
 
Big article posted yesterday about the election. Some interesting quotes:



http://biz.yahoo.com/ap/080227/american_ai..._vote.html?.v=1

No mention of where the money comes from to recover it all plus "make significant gains." Might as well say "we'll settle for nothing less than a 55% increase." Or maybe 100%.


The part of the article you did NOT quote, the part about Ward not returning phone calls from the press, was far more interesting.

What a sore loser! His campaign of lies, filth and misinformation got him nowhere and his years of deception and dishonesty sealed the deal.
 
[quote name='Nor'Easta' post='576747' date='Feb 27 2008, 05:10 AM']Later days wAArdo!

Here are the final totals from the WINNERS website:



President:

Glading - 6420


Ward - 5363


Vice-President:

Durkin - 6413


McIntyre - 5279


Secretary:

Pointer - 6078


Geiss - 5579


Treasurer:

Barerra - 6072


Gunter - 5604


The membership has spoken![/quote]

The membership has spoken. 18,000 of us and 12,000 voted and the vote was almost split in half. We spoke alright. I'm just glad to see that the race was so tight. Made me have more faith in FAs intelligence. Not too much faith though.

Let's hope her big talk isn't all hot air.
 
The membership has spoken. 18,000 of us and 12,000 voted and the vote was almost split in half. We spoke alright. I'm just glad to see that the race was so tight. Made me have more faith in FAs intelligence. Not too much faith though.

Let's hope her big talk isn't all hot air.


When is the last time anyone running for office (any office) was not full of hot air? The are politicians. Their job is to lie and to protect the special interests that funded them or supported and got them elected.

Every now and then someone can surprise you by doing the right thing, but more often than not they rise to the level of their incompetency.
 
The membership has spoken. 18,000 of us and 12,000 voted and the vote was almost split in half.
I don't know if I would characterize a 55% to 45% margin of victory as "almost split in half." In presidential politics, it would borderline a landslide.

Without the DFW and IDF votes, the margin would have been more like 67% to 33%.
 
I don't know if I would characterize a 55% to 45% margin of victory as "almost split in half." In presidential politics, it would borderline a landslide.

Without the DFW and IDF votes, the margin would have been more like 67% to 33%.

Don't start calling that ANYWHERE near a landslide. I'm not agreeing with your 55/45 margin statistics either. While you're at it, why don't you exclude the inactive TWA vote out of your "landslide" instead of attempting to negate full time/active employees votes. Voting was the name of the game. Those who did have full b*tch rights. They should publish the non voter names just as they used to publish those who were in dues arrears. I voted my candidate lost. That's all. I hope she does well.
 
I'm not agreeing with your 55/45 margin statistics either.
Let's see. A total of 11,783 valid votes were cast for the office of APFA president. Glading received 6,420 and Ward's share of the vote was 5,363. 6,420 / 11,783 = 54.48% and 5,363 / 11,783 = 45.51%. These numbers don't lie.
 
Don't start calling that ANYWHERE near a landslide. I'm not agreeing with your 55/45 margin statistics either. While you're at it, why don't you exclude the inactive TWA vote out of your "landslide" instead of attempting to negate full time/active employees votes. Voting was the name of the game. Those who did have full b*tch rights. They should publish the non voter names just as they used to publish those who were in dues arrears. I voted my candidate lost. That's all. I hope she does well.

Chris, most of the TWA voters are now active, trained AA f/as. They are just as "worthy" as you or any other member. The slt vote was considerably smaller because those recalled have been dispursed to other bases. Can't blame this one on TWA.

If JW had come out with a little humility and admitted that he had gotten caught unprepared after 9-11 BUT that he had learned his lesson and he would not be duped again, he probably could have won. Also, if he had stated that unity was crucial to success and while preparing for negotiations he would be undertaking a system wide effort for unity and understanding, he would have received more suport. And finally, if he had been humble enough to offer to brain storm with representatives of the major factions and come together as a collective "brain team", I think he could have won.

Live and learn.
 
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