We cut corner, they're cutting heads............

Barfbag

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Here's a little secret, in the spirit of turning aircraft faster. Most internationals out of JFK are turned cleaned. The cleaners are not expected to treat international inbounds any different than a short haul domestic inbound.

Last month AA introduced Duvets in F/C and Business. They are prison gray colored blankets and are neither a blanket nor a quilt. On some OALs these items are stowed over-head and only given to the passenger upon request, never on a 1-1 ratio as AA presently does. On these same OAL's these duvets are used as a cushion on which to lay on, not cover with. They are also not any wider than the seat itself, F/C blankets are still provided. What is being created at AA, in both said cabins is a ever increasing dirty and clutter filled environment. The duvets are unwrapped, and after use, are thrown on the floor of the aircraft, where they are stepped on by passengers, while sitting a dirty floor for the entire flight. Upon arrival at JFK these Duvets are picked up off the dirty cabin floor by the cleaner and refolded.

We're only told to hurry, not to change them for new ones, just refold.

If the cleaners had to change every unwrapped duvet for a new one on each flight. The cleaning truck would have to return to the aircraft as it could not hold all the dirty duvets, inflight garbage and cleaners safely.

Someone at DFW, didn't figure in this time needed, so the duvets are just getting dirtier with each passing flight/day. As a reward we were recently told, that the that JFK would be losing headcount in cleaning in future bids.

In the beginning the cabin supervisors told the inflight personnel that the unwrapped duvets came unwrapped but were new from the manufacturer

Any unwrapped duvet on any outbound flight is infact a dirty duvet.

So; inflight personnel, as passenger advocates, please always insist on wrapped duvets for our passengers.
 
Someone at DFW, didn't figure in this time needed, so the duvets are just getting dirtier with each passing flight/day. As a reward we were recently told, that the that JFK would be losing headcount in cleaning in future bids.


Filthy blankets are fine for the paying passengers right?

Especially the sacred International Fare...

But when a Mark Mitchell or another company waste of space travels you'll have half a dozen CSM's in the bagroom making sure his bags are properly tagged and loaded, the aircraft is immaculate and fully provisioned and the line crew has the correct number of people.

Why is some zipperhead from corporate travelling for FREE more important than the guy who PAIDfor his ticket?


Disgraceful what has happened to this place, absolutely F'ing disgraceful.

C.R.Smith is making turns for thirty knots in his grave.
 
Filthy blankets are fine for the paying passengers right?

Especially the sacred International Fare...

But when a Mark Mitchell or another company waste of space travels you'll have half a dozen CSM's in the bagroom making sure his bags are properly tagged and loaded, the aircraft is immaculate and fully provisioned and the line crew has the correct number of people.

Why is some zipperhead from corporate travelling for FREE more important than the guy who PAIDfor his ticket?
Disgraceful what has happened to this place, absolutely F'ing disgraceful.

C.R.Smith is making turns for thirty knots in his grave.
And in F/C NO LESS, IIRC when Uncle Bobby traveled in F/C no other "non-rev" was allowed there.
 
And in F/C NO LESS, IIRC when Uncle Bobby traveled in F/C no other "non-rev" was allowed there.
When those duvets first came out I wondered what knucklehead came up with the idea. They are all over the floor during service. Try going down the aisle with these things sticking out all over the place. And now we realize they are dirty also. Did they figure in the cost of cleaning and replacing? Why don't they have flight attendants and passengers work on service items together? We could probably save the company money with things that made sense!
We have such idiots in Fort Worth, it blows my mind.
 
When those duvets first came out I wondered what knucklehead came up with the idea. They are all over the floor during service. Try going down the aisle with these things sticking out all over the place. And now we realize they are dirty also. Did they figure in the cost of cleaning and replacing? Why don't they have flight attendants and passengers work on service items together? We could probably save the company money with things that made sense!
We have such idiots in Fort Worth, it blows my mind.

Agreed. A better solution would have been (IMO) down comforters with heavy cotten covers and a stuff sack. They would take up much less room and the covers would be changed for clean ones between flights. Even cheap hotels often change sheets every morning. Periodically, the down comforters themselves would be dry-cleaned.

Not a perfect solution by any stretch, but it would have made a lot more sense than what we have now. Instead, I've got a huge space-wasting duvet to try to keep from getting sticky or run over by the carts during dinner - and it's already sticky from the previous passengers. Yuck.
 
Agreed. A better solution would have been (IMO) down comforters with heavy cotten covers and a stuff sack. They would take up much less room and the covers would be changed for clean ones between flights. Even cheap hotels often change sheets every morning. Periodically, the down comforters themselves would be dry-cleaned.

Not a perfect solution by any stretch, but it would have made a lot more sense than what we have now. Instead, I've got a huge space-wasting duvet to try to keep from getting sticky or run over by the carts during dinner - and it's already sticky from the previous passengers. Yuck.

Actually TWA had a duvet, blanket, pillow and sheet as part of it's Premium Class service already in place as AA was locking it's door. The duvet was intended for use as bedding, handed to paxs by F/A upon request. Ratio 1-2. They were stowed in the last overhead in F/C, four to an overhead. The sheets were fitted and placed by the cleaners ( some work involved here as the fitted sheets were wedged into each seat ) the wrapped wool blankets on each sheet and then an F/C pillow on the blanket. And yes; the drop down or pull up meal tables were wiped clean, something cleaners at AA never do.

The finished product was a clean and clutter less look in F/C. Of course when AA purchased, it hurried to destroy every bit of TWA history and culture regarding their Royal Ambassador and Premium Service.

If AA does gain a substantial presence in Asia someday, they'll have to retool their service, F/C long haul passengers to Asia will be raising the bar on AA, or they'll fly elsewhere.
 
Certainly, no one from TWA's team made it over to corporate DFW.

Depends on where you look - there are more ex-TW management employees than there are ex-TW flight attendants... A dozen or so eventually found L3-L5 jobs at HDQ after admin in MCI and STL were closed down. Operationally, there are at least three general managers who survived the merger, two of which are L8's.
 
Depends on where you look - there are more ex-TW management employees than there are ex-TW flight attendants... A dozen or so eventually found L3-L5 jobs at HDQ after admin in MCI and STL were closed down. Operationally, there are at least three general managers who survived the merger, two of which are L8's.

Well then, ask them about TWA's premium service.