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Do AA employees want to merge with US Airways?


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Completely expected.
Which means that theoretically we shouldn't have to continue to discuss this issue because AMR is unlikely to entertain any offers from anyone for at least six months.
It also means that AMR will continue with its own restructuring, including the 1113 process - which means that US can't make any promises that they could stop or alter any of that process from happening. The 1113 process will involve AMR, its labor, and the court.
And it is highly likely that process, which is the most significant part of AA's restructuring, will be finished within six months.
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It will then be much clearer what shape AMR is in as well as how expectations regarding the industry and overall economy are unfolding.
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I'm sure some people won't let up on their efforts to push an AA-US merger - but everyone should remember it is still AMR's EXCLUSIVE right to develop its own restructuring plan.
Thanks for the update Richard, now we all know that you can sleep at night for the next few months.......
 
Thanks for the update Richard, now we all know that you can sleep at night for the next few months.......
how predictable... character assassination if someone doesn't agree with you.
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I have yet to ask you why everyone else who doesn't agree w/ you isn't a part of management at their airlines.
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As for Asia and what AA/US could accomplish separately or together, it is the mere distraction of a merger w/o any real benefit FOR AA that is why so many see the possibility as having no value. AA's position in Asia, while small, is still multiples larger than US'.... AA at least has enough partners and the right aircraft for the Pacific to keep working at it.... but it doesn't change that it would still be an effort built on AA assets.
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US isn't going to change the outcome of the outsourcing decisions AA is making... move on and try to find another reason.
 
how predictable... character assassination if someone doesn't agree with you.
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I have yet to ask you why everyone else who doesn't agree w/ you isn't a part of management at their airlines.
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As for Asia and what AA/US could accomplish separately or together, it is the mere distraction of a merger w/o any real benefit FOR AA that is why so many see the possibility as having no value. AA's position in Asia, while small, is still multiples larger than US'.... AA at least has enough partners and the right aircraft for the Pacific to keep working at it.... but it doesn't change that it would still be an effort built on AA assets.
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US isn't going to change the outcome of the outsourcing decisions AA is making... move on and try to find another reason.


Ok Big Guy, let's get down to business here.
By self admission, you ARE NOT an employee of Delta Airlines. This raises the question of your true love and passion for the company?
What is your motivation here? You can't tell me that you have this much interest in a company that you have no ties to? I'm not buying into it, and believe that you have some type of motivating factor here. I know that you would have a rise in your shorts if US went out of business, leaving the entire Southeast and a good part of the Northeast to Delta. Didn't Delta heavily count on this a few years ago as part of their own recovery plan? In your narrow minded love affair with Delta, have you ever thought about the THOUSANDS of people employed by US and the families that they support? There is room in the country for more than one major airline, although you would love for Delta to become the Aeroflot of the USA. Now that Delta has merged with NW, you think that nobody else should reap the benefits of becoming of equal size to Delta. You have spoken negatively about every other airline, while pounding your "Delta is the Greatest" drum over and over again. All of your constant Pro-Delta BS could make me Puke. I have been on these boards for a long time, and have seen thru your BS. Do you have a friggen pair of Delta Boxer Shorts for crying out loud? Other than gaining some support from the anti AA/US crowd, you have had squat for support with most of your One Sided Delta Posts. I like Ford products, but wouldn't spend 23 hours a day lurking and posting on a website that was primarily used by UAW employees, unless I worked for them that is. Why are you so preoccupied with the possibility of a US/AA merger? Does it pose a threat to Delta? Hell, you even chimed in on the CLT expansion thread with your Delta minded opinions. Will CLT expansion draw traffic away from ATL?
There is no way that you are this involved with all this Pro-Delta crap, unless you are in upper management with them, or a lobbying for them. You appear to be anti-union as well, which fits perfectly into the management mold.
US has been thru several rough times, and survived them all. I applaud Parker for trying to do whats best for the long term survival of the company as well as its employees. He can only work with what he has. Many have credited him him with getting the industry consolidation ball rolling as well. If I worked for Delta, and they were prospering, I wouldn't give a rats arse what US and AA were up to, unless I felt threatened by them. You do nothing more that spew a bunch of negative opinions in your page long posts. Nobody is in the terrific position that Delta is, Nobody does anything as good as they do, and so on. I'm surprised that you didn't put a spin on the DL 737 incident in ATL by saying that a US A/C ran them off the taxiway while trying to catch an AA A/C.
 
how predictable... character assassination if someone doesn't agree with you.
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I have yet to ask you why everyone else who doesn't agree w/ you isn't a part of management at their airlines.
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As for Asia and what AA/US could accomplish separately or together, it is the mere distraction of a merger w/o any real benefit FOR AA that is why so many see the possibility as having no value. AA's position in Asia, while small, is still multiples larger than US'.... AA at least has enough partners and the right aircraft for the Pacific to keep working at it.... but it doesn't change that it would still be an effort built on AA assets.
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US isn't going to change the outcome of the outsourcing decisions AA is making... move on and try to find another reason.
FWIW, You are the only one that I have personally suspected of being in management due to the nature of your posts. Most, if not all come from a company minded perspective, with angles that the "Average Joe" wouldn't use. While some are proud of the company that they work for, you go Miles overboard. Nobody has as much pro-company spin as you do on these boards. If you aren't an employee, or in any way affiliated with Delta Airlines, I truly feel sorry for you. Most of your points and concerns with items that do/could affect Delta reek of management, or for that matter even the CEO....
 
FWIW, You are the only one that I have personally suspected of being in management due to the nature of your posts. Most, if not all come from a company minded perspective, with angles that the "Average Joe" wouldn't use. While some are proud of the company that they work for, you go Miles overboard. Nobody has as much pro-company spin as you do on these boards. If you aren't an employee, or in any way affiliated with Delta Airlines, I truly feel sorry for you. Most of your points and concerns with items that do/could affect Delta reek of management, or for that matter even the CEO....

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Anyone else need some before the show starts?
 
No show coming. Anyone who frequents this site knows where I'm coming from. If it ain't good for Delta, it ain't good. Nobody that I have ever seen is that pro company unless they manage it, or own it.
 
Yes he did approve it with the exception that the UCC could accept an offer that was preferable. Go read it.
 
This Texas senator says stay away from my airline....
http://blogs.wsj.com/deals/2012/04/13/texas-senator-dont-mess-with-american-airlines/?mod=yahoo_hs
 
I think a guy from Minnesota said that a few years ago too. We all know how that worked out.......
Fwiw, IF a merger were to take place, I don't think that his state would lose much if anything. I'm willing to say Hdq would remain in DFW. He should be more concerned about the Mtc jobs that his state could see leaving the country.
 
The Senator is a she, Kay Bailey Hutchinson.
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She is echoing the same thing that every party, including me, have said for months and that is that the BK process provides a period of exclusivity to AMR which should be honored.
Somehow there are those from US who don't like that answer despite the fact that it has nothing to do with DL or anyone else.
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Go ahead, wings.
DL had no plan to eliminate US and still doesn't - funny how those rumors cropped up in the aftermath of US' failed takeover attempt of DL - a little remorse, perhaps? They will compete with whoever comes along. If US can't compete but someone else can, then it would seem US has to figure that out.
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I don't have to have any financial interest in anything in order to know what is good for the industry.
And, yes, I am aware of what US has done - it is running a fairly decent airline w/ what it has been given - and I have acknowledged that.
But I have also said that US doesn't have what it takes to compete long term in the US airline industry - but since Parker himself goes back and forth every other month saying the same thing, I'm not sure why you should think it a surprise when someone outside the company mentions it.
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AA needs to figure its situation out and so does US. Independently.
 
If my memory serves me correctly, wasn't the MN senator concerned about job losses in his state along with the financial assistance his state gave to NW? It appears as if some of his concerns were justified, as DL has relocated a fair amount of jobs to ATL.
As I recall, Delta was had plans of US going away prior to the US takeover attempt.
To this day, I believe that the whole slot swap deal was done in order to set the stage for future events.
 
If my memory serves me correctly, wasn't the MN senator concerned about job losses in his state along with the financial assistance his state gave to NW? It appears as if some of his concerns were justified, as DL has relocated a fair amount of jobs to ATL.
As I recall, Delta was had plans of US going away prior to the US takeover attempt.
To this day, I believe that the whole slot swap deal was done in order to set the stage for future events.
DL repaid the financial obligations to MN and thus the state of MN was made whole on all of the commitments it made to NW.
DL still employs about 10K people in MN which makes DL the 14th largest employer in MN and the 2nd largest non-MN based company, behind Wal-Mart that employs about twice as many people. DL and Wal-Mart are the only non-MN companies (excluding the Fed government) in the top 25 largest employers.
http://www.tcbmag.com/factfinder/bigbook/largestemployers-top25.aspx
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To my knowledge, there are no similar agreements involving any of AA's major facilities.
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I suppose your theory about the slot swap could be valid but if so it still leaves AA/US #3 in the NYC area.... if US had swapped alot fewer slots, they could have overcome antitrust concerns in an AA/US merger and been either #1 or #2... but US swapped away far more LGA slots than it gained in DCA. Combined, AA/US will still have about half the slots DL has at LGA.
If gaining size in NYC is the primary intention, then B6 makes far more sense than any other combination with AA... B6 also has the benefit of having a large presence in the Caribbean, with many of the markets it has grown gained from AA. B6 strategically does more for AA than US does w/ alot less baggage - and provides the opportunity for AA's unions to replace some of their numbers that will be lost during AMR's restructuring.
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If AA emerges from BK as a standalone company, the most likely scenario is an AA acquisition of B6.... and although some would like to believe that AA will also have a codeshare with AS, I think it is far more likely that DL will acquire AS as soon as it becomes apparent that AA will emerge on its own.
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Once again, for now, AA has the right to restructure on its own and doing so successfully is still the most likely scenario.
 
Ok Big Guy, let's get down to business here.
By self admission, you ARE NOT an employee of Delta Airlines. This raises the question of your true love and passion for the company?
What is your motivation here? You can't tell me that you have this much interest in a company that you have no ties to? I'm not buying into it, and believe that you have some type of motivating factor here. I know that you would have a rise in your shorts if US went out of business, leaving the entire Southeast and a good part of the Northeast to Delta. Didn't Delta heavily count on this a few years ago as part of their own recovery plan? In your narrow minded love affair with Delta, have you ever thought about the THOUSANDS of people employed by US and the families that they support? There is room in the country for more than one major airline, although you would love for Delta to become the Aeroflot of the USA. Now that Delta has merged with NW, you think that nobody else should reap the benefits of becoming of equal size to Delta. You have spoken negatively about every other airline, while pounding your "Delta is the Greatest" drum over and over again. All of your constant Pro-Delta BS could make me Puke. I have been on these boards for a long time, and have seen thru your BS. Do you have a friggen pair of Delta Boxer Shorts for crying out loud? Other than gaining some support from the anti AA/US crowd, you have had squat for support with most of your One Sided Delta Posts. I like Ford products, but wouldn't spend 23 hours a day lurking and posting on a website that was primarily used by UAW employees, unless I worked for them that is. Why are you so preoccupied with the possibility of a US/AA merger? Does it pose a threat to Delta? Hell, you even chimed in on the CLT expansion thread with your Delta minded opinions. Will CLT expansion draw traffic away from ATL?
There is no way that you are this involved with all this Pro-Delta crap, unless you are in upper management with them, or a lobbying for them. You appear to be anti-union as well, which fits perfectly into the management mold.
US has been thru several rough times, and survived them all. I applaud Parker for trying to do whats best for the long term survival of the company as well as its employees. He can only work with what he has. Many have credited him him with getting the industry consolidation ball rolling as well. If I worked for Delta, and they were prospering, I wouldn't give a rats arse what US and AA were up to, unless I felt threatened by them. You do nothing more that spew a bunch of negative opinions in your page long posts. Nobody is in the terrific position that Delta is, Nobody does anything as good as they do, and so on. I'm surprised that you didn't put a spin on the DL 737 incident in ATL by saying that a US A/C ran them off the taxiway while trying to catch an AA A/C.

Amen!! Couldn't agree more!
 

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