2015 AMT Discussion

[Buster CRC]

http://www.thestreet.com/story/13426877/1/delta-could-save-3-billion-in-2016-as-oil-falls-but-forex-hurts.html

 

[topDawg]

What held up negotiations?

The NMB making its determination.

You really have a hard on for the IAM and the TWU.

No i don't have a hard on for the IAM, thats you......clearly. 
 
but I'm sorry how long did it take for the IAM/TWU to come up with a proposal to give AA? They sure as **** weren't ready to go (like they should have been)  
 

What held up negotiations was/is the AFL-CIO. If the IAM had simply stepped aside as the TWU was/is the majority union, we probably would not be in this mess. That did not happen since the AFL-CIO did not want to see an expenditure of cash with these two unions fighting over membership dues. Long gone are the days of a union bettering the workers work-life. Now it is all about the dues money and the unions political agenda, members be damned.

what a crazy idea. You should love the IAM. 
even if they get you outsourced and/or force you into the s**t show pension plan. 
 
*rolls eyes*

 

[700UW]

The IAM/TWU legally couldnt present anything to AA as they werent the certified bargaining agent.

When they were, meetings were scheduled and a presentation given to the company.
 
They negotiated last week, this week, next and nine more weeks scheduled.
 
No union ever gets nine weeks straight of negotiations outside of bankruptcy.

Dont let the facts get in your way.

 

[2ndGENAMT]

"On Feb. 12, the carrier will pay $1.5 billion in employee profit-sharing, equal to an average employee pay boost of 21.4%. This will increase labor pressure on other airlines, particularly American, where employees lack profit-sharing."

Well, unless you're represented by the TWU/IAM association..

 

[700UW]

And they just whacked their profit sharing by 50% after this payout
Go ask Kev, they lost other perks and have one of the highest cost insurance which doesn't cover a lot of items and has very high copays.

 

[dfw gen]

"On Feb. 12, the carrier will pay $1.5 billion in employee profit-sharing, equal to an average employee pay boost of 21.4%. This will increase labor pressure on other airlines, particularly American, where employees lack profit-sharing."

Well, unless you're represented by the TWU/IAM association..

That's a fact. And we get the association.

 

[conehead777]

The IAM/TWU legally couldnt present anything to AA as they werent the certified bargaining agent.

When they were, meetings were scheduled and a presentation given to the company.
 
They negotiated last week, this week, next and nine more weeks scheduled.
 
No union ever gets nine weeks straight of negotiations outside of bankruptcy.

Dont let the facts get in your way.

your the one who dose not have facts .because even if they could not negotiate with aa the iam/twu should have been talking to merge they knew there would be no vote they and the afl/cio gave a big donation to the. Nmb

 

[700UW]

your the one who dose not have facts .because even if they could not negotiate with aa the iam/twu should have been talking to merge they knew there would be no vote they and the afl/cio gave a big donation to the. Nmb

English not your strong points?
 
Your post is totally inaccurate.

 

[DallasConehead]

LOL

 

[topDawg]

The IAM/TWU legally couldnt present anything to AA as they werent the certified bargaining agent.
When they were, meetings were scheduled and a presentation given to the company.
 
They negotiated last week, this week, next and nine more weeks scheduled.
 
No union ever gets nine weeks straight of negotiations outside of bankruptcy.
Dont let the facts get in your way.

I didn't say anything about AA
Was the ass ready, on the day they got the green light (without a vote, mind you) from the NMB, to sit down at the table with AA, yes or no?
 
Also, why is it that every of work group could pick a single union, quickly, and get a TA quickly, but the IAM and TWU couldn't get their s**t together and had to do questionable things to keep dues payers?  

 

[1AA]

I didn't say anything about AA
Was the ass ready, on the day they got the green light (without a vote, mind you) from the NMB, to sit down at the table with AA, yes or no?
 
Also, why is it that every of work group could pick a single union, quickly, and get a TA quickly, but the IAM and TWU couldn't get their s**t together and had to do questionable things to keep dues payers?

It's all about the money. Keeping the dues flowing in the pockets of the IAM. Keeping the scam IAMPF going as long as the IAM is still on the property. If the two sides had to pick a union the IAM would have been out. If there would have been a run off both loser unions were in danger of being thrown out. So here we are with the scam association without a vote at our expense. Many months and no increase in pay and benefits. But the unions keep collecting dues. We are in unchartered territory. Who knows what we will get or give up to get it. How long and if we will even see a JCBA.

 

[700UW]

So are you Ms Cleo now?
 
And no the Association wasnt ready as the IAM and TWU didnt meet right away to prepare due to internal Association issues.

The IAM tried to get the TWU to sit down, and they refused as there were some issues.

 

[1AA]

So are you Ms Cleo now?
 
And no the Association wasnt ready as the IAM and TWU didnt meet right away to prepare due to internal Association issues.

The IAM tried to get the TWU to sit down, and they refused as there were some issues.

And you are? AMT? A TWU member? A IAM member? Which airline are you currently employed with?

 

[700UW]

And you are? AMT? A TWU member? A IAM member? Which airline are you currently employed with?

And that has what to do with the topic at hand?
 
Why dont take the clue that the mods told you, anyone is allowed to post here as long as they follow the Terms of Service.

Dont like it, use the ignore feature.

 

[Buck]

So are you Ms Cleo now?
 
And no the Association wasnt ready as the IAM and TWU didnt meet right away to prepare due to internal Association issues.
The IAM tried to get the TWU to sit down, and they refused as there were some issues.

I hope that Ms Cleo is not a Racial remark?