AA to go back to "banked" hubs
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robbedagain
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And wn pays their employees much higher than other airlines. Also aa pays their's higher than pre merger us folks. And the list goes on
Crash Pad DCA
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3Q2013 Airline Revenues per EmployeeUPNAWAY said:
http://csimarket.com/Industry/industry_Efficiency.php?ind=1102
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LOL. Show that chart to the seed corn of the pilot profession--- such as a regional FO who's paying back student tuition loans, on food stamps and doing his sundries shopping by lifting soap, shampoo and tp from the hotel room.Crash Pad DCA said:
Crash Pad DCA
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Acdording to the US Bureau of Transportation Statistics (BTS), in September 2001 US had 45,069 employees and AW had 13,633 employees for a combined total of 58,702 employees. In September 2013 US had 33,250 FTEs. From Sep 2001 to Sep 2013 25,452 jobs have been lost at US/AW, or a 43% loss of jobs.UPNAWAY said:
In September 2001 AA had 97,939 employees, and in September 2013 AA had 62,290 employees. From Sep 2001 to Sep 2013 35,649 jobs have been lost at AA, or a 36% loss of jobs.
AA saved 7% more jobs than US/AW from Sep 2011 to Sep 2013.
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http://www.transtats.bts.gov/Employment/Employment.aspx
September 2001 Airline Employment
September 2013 Airline Employment
Crash Pad DCA
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In the 10 year period between August 2003 and August 2012 WN increased the its employment by 42%.UPNAWAY said:
That's pretty remarkable.
http://aviationblog.dallasnews.com/2012/10/employment-in-u-s-airline-industry-including-southwest-airlines-rose-in-august-down-at-american-airlines.html/
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Yes, it is, but you need to look a little further to see just how remarkable it is.Crash Pad DCA said:
In 2003, WN had ~65M enplanements. In 2013, they had over 133M. That's more than double the passenger boardings in a 10 year period.
ASM's grew by ~78% -- from 71.7K to over 128K
I could go on, but you should get the point by now...
They've doubled in terms of boardings and almost doubled in terms of available seat miles, yet only added 42% to their headcount.
*THAT* is remarkable.
I think you forgot to add the TWA employees to the AA employees in the Sept 2001 employee totals. Still, even with those job losses, AA and HPdbaUS are about even in percentage of jobs shed since 2001, and your point remains valid: Parker didn't do anything all that remarkable. Especially since he was blessed with the lowest legacy airline labor costs in the industry since the merger in 2005.Crash Pad DCA said:
Chrash Pad US And AWA merged Sep 2005, then US Airways only had 22K employees (they went through BK twice recall). So if you add their numbers with the AWA post 9/11, I used that date because DP took over two weeks before, you have no real loss of jobs.
In the 10 year period between August 2003 and August 2012 WN increased the its employment by 42%.
That's pretty remarkable.
http://aviationblog.dallasnews.com/2012/10/employment-in-u-s-airline-industry-including-southwest-airlines-rose-in-august-down-at-american-airlines.html/
In the 10 year period between August 2003 and August 2012 WN increased the its employment by 42%.
That's pretty remarkable.
http://aviationblog.dallasnews.com/2012/10/employment-in-u-s-airline-industry-including-southwest-airlines-rose-in-august-down-at-american-airlines.html/
If you take a snapshot of almost any airline you will find at some point they had remarkable growth. Take a look at Piedmont or USAir in the 80's. If an airline has 1 airplane and then buys another airplane that is remarkable growth? When the airline is smaller and and grows it is easier to have a higher percentage of growth than a larger carrier. If American or Delta or United were to grow the same as you say AW grew during that time period you "cherry picked" then that would be remarkable.
All the best,
Bob
