Aircraft maint issues

[Matt1200]

Sorry not go off the current discussion, but does anyone know how much is in our profit sharing so far for this year?

 

[jimntx]

I don't want a one payer system, I think the Republicans are giving lip service to replace Obama care. Can anyone name me one social program that has become law in this country and has been repealed?

Are we trying to expose the dreaded SOCIALISM monster again? Why would you object to a single payer system where you would simply go in to the doctor or medical facility, get treated, and then leave without a 2-hour stop in the cashier/billing department making arrangements for how you are going to pay your "co-pay"?

Just FYI, just about every civilized country in the world with the exception of the United States now has a single payer system for universal health care. Every one of them has lower total costs and better results--lower infant mortality being a prime example. We have medical costs in this country that are unbelievably higher than other countries. When Medicare (and later, Medicaid) were established, Congress specifically prohibited the Social Security Administration from negotiating pricing with medical providers and pharmaceutical companies. (I'm sure that there was no heavy-handed lobbying going on in the background.) Now you can pick almost any prescription drug and find out that you and I pay 4-10 times what a Canadian, or British, or French, or German citizen pays for the same drug.

There was a drug that I was taking for a chronic problem. When I started taking it, the cost was $10 per pill. Now, the history of most drugs is that after a time, the patent expires and generic medications come on the market which are much cheaper than the original. Instead with this drug, the cost has continued to increase with no generic available, and it is now over $30 per pill. My company insurance for some reason will not pay for this drug. So, I had to stop taking it. A year's dosage is over $11,000 out of my pocket. (My insurance did allow me to use some of that for covering my deductible and out-of-pocket expenses. Isn't that generous?)

 

[B737 driver]

Are we trying to expose the dreaded SOCIALISM monster again? Why would you object to a single payer system where you would simply go in to the doctor or medical facility, get treated, and then leave without a 2-hour stop in the cashier/billing department making arrangements for how you are going to pay your "co-pay"?

Just FYI, just about every civilized country in the world with the exception of the United States now has a single payer system for universal health care. Every one of them has lower total costs and better results--lower infant mortality being a prime example. We have medical costs in this country that are unbelievably higher than other countries. When Medicare (and later, Medicaid) were established, Congress specifically prohibited the Social Security Administration from negotiating pricing with medical providers and pharmaceutical companies. (I'm sure that there was no heavy-handed lobbying going on in the background.) Now you can pick almost any prescription drug and find out that you and I pay 4-10 times what a Canadian, or British, or French, or German citizen pays for the same drug.

There was a drug that I was taking for a chronic problem. When I started taking it, the cost was $10 per pill. Now, the history of most drugs is that after a time, the patent expires and generic medications come on the market which are much cheaper than the original. Instead with this drug, the cost has continued to increase with no generic available, and it is now over $30 per pill. My company insurance for some reason will not pay for this drug. So, I had to stop taking it. A year's dosage is over $11,000 out of my pocket. (My insurance did allow me to use some of that for covering my deductible and out-of-pocket expenses. Isn't that generous?)

We will probably end up with a single payer system, and then supplemental insurance through our employers, this medical cost through pharmaceutical companies, doctors, ect, the lobbyists will not let go of trillions of dollars in profits. What you will end up with is a hybrid one payer system, and Obama care will still be the law of the land, just like every other social program started since FDR was president.

 

[La Li Lu Le Lo]

I have AA insurance and just tried to make an appointment with my doctor. Can't get me in till January. So what were you saying about the waiting period for socialized medicine?

Feel free to make an appointment with another doctor.

 

[La Li Lu Le Lo]

Are we trying to expose the dreaded SOCIALISM monster again? Why would you object to a single payer system where you would simply go in to the doctor or medical facility, get treated, and then leave without a 2-hour stop in the cashier/billing department making arrangements for how you are going to pay your "co-pay"?

Just FYI, just about every civilized country in the world with the exception of the United States now has a single payer system for universal health care. Every one of them has lower total costs and better results--lower infant mortality being a prime example. We have medical costs in this country that are unbelievably higher than other countries. When Medicare (and later, Medicaid) were established, Congress specifically prohibited the Social Security Administration from negotiating pricing with medical providers and pharmaceutical companies. (I'm sure that there was no heavy-handed lobbying going on in the background.) Now you can pick almost any prescription drug and find out that you and I pay 4-10 times what a Canadian, or British, or French, or German citizen pays for the same drug.

There was a drug that I was taking for a chronic problem. When I started taking it, the cost was $10 per pill. Now, the history of most drugs is that after a time, the patent expires and generic medications come on the market which are much cheaper than the original. Instead with this drug, the cost has continued to increase with no generic available, and it is now over $30 per pill. My company insurance for some reason will not pay for this drug. So, I had to stop taking it. A year's dosage is over $11,000 out of my pocket. (My insurance did allow me to use some of that for covering my deductible and out-of-pocket expenses. Isn't that generous?)

Yes and every one of them has cut BILLIONS from their healthcare budget. Do you know why? Because that form of "insurance" is unsustainable.

It is important the Mechanics keep insurance in their contract.

I love how liberals continuously ignore all the problems with socialized medicine. They act like it is the silver bullet that is going to fix all the healthcare problems in this country. I have news for them, it isn't.

 

[737823]

Are we trying to expose the dreaded SOCIALISM monster again? Why would you object to a single payer system where you would simply go in to the doctor or medical facility, get treated, and then leave without a 2-hour stop in the cashier/billing department making arrangements for how you are going to pay your "co-pay"?

Just FYI, just about every civilized country in the world with the exception of the United States now has a single payer system for universal health care. Every one of them has lower total costs and better results--lower infant mortality being a prime example. We have medical costs in this country that are unbelievably higher than other countries. When Medicare (and later, Medicaid) were established, Congress specifically prohibited the Social Security Administration from negotiating pricing with medical providers and pharmaceutical companies. (I'm sure that there was no heavy-handed lobbying going on in the background.) Now you can pick almost any prescription drug and find out that you and I pay 4-10 times what a Canadian, or British, or French, or German citizen pays for the same drug.

There was a drug that I was taking for a chronic problem. When I started taking it, the cost was $10 per pill. Now, the history of most drugs is that after a time, the patent expires and generic medications come on the market which are much cheaper than the original. Instead with this drug, the cost has continued to increase with no generic available, and it is now over $30 per pill. My company insurance for some reason will not pay for this drug. So, I had to stop taking it. A year's dosage is over $11,000 out of my pocket. (My insurance did allow me to use some of that for covering my deductible and out-of-pocket expenses. Isn't that generous?)

Jim:

You will really enjoy this informative read. It's a great book to read in chunks and pick up where you left off over layovers or what have you.

http://www.npr.org/books/titles/523...-became-big-business-and-how-you-can-take-it-

Josh

 

[jimntx]

Thanks, Josh. Just ordered it from Amazon.

 

[737823]

Thanks, Josh. Just ordered it from Amazon.

I think you'll really find it interesting and all the physicians in my family have read it and feel it's mostly on point. After reading the book I've definitely ran into some of these tricks and ancillary offerings the hospitals are trying to push on people (like the airlines, ironically). There are a couple examples about big pharma you will likely relate to, Jim. Let me know what you think about it.

Josh

 

[OldGuy@AA]

Yes and every one of them has cut BILLIONS from their healthcare budget. Do you know why? Because that form of "insurance" is unsustainable.

It is important the Mechanics keep insurance in their contract.

I love how liberals continuously ignore all the problems with socialized medicine. They act like it is the silver bullet that is going to fix all the healthcare problems in this country. I have news for them, it isn't.

Last I saw this wasn't a political thread. Your have made your opinion on socialized medicine very clear. There is no talk or plans to get rid of medical insurance right now. Now can we get back to what this thread is about?

 

[La Li Lu Le Lo]

Last I saw this wasn't a political thread. Your have made your opinion on socialized medicine very clear. There is no talk or plans to get rid of medical insurance right now. Now can we get back to what this thread is about?

Have you considered the company is monitoring the repeal of Obamacare? Don't you think something as important as healthcare deserves your attention?

How do you know what the Association and American Airlines are discussing behind closed doors? Do you trust either one? Would you put it past American Airlines to make a push to drop employer provided healthcare? Would you put it past the Association to roll over and let them do it?

I am not trying to make this political. What I am trying to do is motivate you to guard one of your most important benefits.

You say there is no talk of it and MAYBE you are right, but do you doubt there eventually will be?

 

[lpbrian]

http://www.myajc.com/business/delta-increase-profit-sharing-for-employees/QLRA3pEMvz8lPWTcnP6sUN/

Here is one for you all...

 

[jimntx]

Boy, lp. You really know how to cheer up a guy, don't you? That is incredible. 10% of gross up to 2.5 billion. 20% of gross profits over 2.5 billion! Assuming a $3 billion gross profit, that would be $350 million to the profit sharing account. Wow!

 

[B737 driver]

Boy, lp. You really know how to cheer up a guy, don't you? That is incredible. 10% of gross up to 2.5 billion. 20% of gross profits over 2.5 billion! Assuming a $3 billion gross profit, that would be $350 million to the profit sharing account. Wow!

You guys will hopefully get treated like the SWA employees I hope.

 

[Matt1200]

I feel we should receive 20% of our gross income for profit sharing. Doug said that since he has taken over AA the company made 9.5 billion before taxes .

 

[jimntx]

If I were you, Matt, I wouldn't hold my breath until that happens at AA.