Working for an airline as a mechanic means working midnights, that is mentioned in the interview, when you apply. Thats like a pilot complaining that he has to travel, or a carpenter complaining about working with wood. A mechanic tired of shift work usually goes into the union.
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Working for an airline as a mechanic means working midnights, that is mentioned in the interview, when you apply. Thats like a pilot complaining that he has to travel, or a carpenter complaining about working with wood. A mechanic tired of shift work usually goes into the union.
WeAAsles
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You guys go into it knowing you’ll be on Midnights for 15 years or more? Wow you guys must sleep in Coffins.
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Bridge medical is fantastic. We had that at NW, but lost it in our merger with DL.
True, I have yet to speak with a night shift AMT that mentions shift or days off as a deal breaker. We have a 2 hour shift overlap every morning. This BS shift and days off concern is a union created nothing burger. Would some of the guys on nites prefer day shift? sure, but not enough to hold up a TA.
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Most guys want a piece of the weekend, so they work 4 tens, and they trade to get more time off especially the younger guys.I work the line, so that is totally a different environment than overhaul.
This nothing more than the boot quaking fear the union always tries to instill when we get close to voting on a contract. Every contract vote has been the same scare the bejeeeeezus out of the sheep to try to control the vote.
Just once give us the information without bias and let the members decide.
I would like to see companies full (finished language) proposal sent to us for a vote, along with the unions opinions about the language. I think that is something that can be done at the next two meetings.
That way everybody can see where the membership stands. Maybe the association will have the members full support, or maybe not. Isn’t it better to know what the membership thinks. We are the ones after all that is paying union dues.
That way everybody can see where the membership stands. Maybe the association will have the members full support, or maybe not. Isn’t it better to know what the membership thinks. We are the ones after all that is paying union dues.
There are good and bad about every shift. I would rather work nights then days. You just have to make the best of whatever situation you’re in.
Day shift is way overrated at my workplace. Graves are great for us family folks who have to get up and attend family events with school and such. Try them all guys then choose which one to go with.
No full text language should NOT even come out for a vote from the union NC at the table. No way in hell. I understand you do not trust the TWU as well as the IAM and of course this BS pathetic asso. And therefore I really believe you guys are going for some time before you guys get any kind of an agreement to vote on. I hope and pray I am wrong, but just calling it as I see it unfold sir...
WeAAsles
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The shifts you guys have to take was the # 1 reason I decided not to go to trade School and become an AMT.
Please don’t take my comment personally.
I think we are misunderstanding each other. What I am trying to say is that we should not vote on bullet points and that is all we have right now. We should have full text language to read before we vote on any contract.
Are you saying not to see any language or anything because the negotiation committee is at the table? And we shouldn’t see anything unless the NC shows it to us? And whatever the association says we should automatically trust? That seems like a tall order.
So AA will put association on backburner while the APA and APFA negotiates another contract. There’s no movement with association, their position is their position.
Can anybody explain what association meant by lockout? The exact definition and how procedure would happen.
Agree 100%. Everything in writing before vote.
We are waiting on ours as we speak. As we have been told there are only changes to where 8 lines of maint., that they were already outsourcing, will be done, some retro, snap up, wage increases that changed, and LOA 1 language and I believe those will be the only changes that will be different from the last T/A agreement they already informed us about in the road shows.
Process from T/A to vote will be short and sweet since there are very few changes that were different from the last T/A. We should be voting in April sometime, although the NC has put out that it should all be wrapped up by end of May.
