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Look at this handcommavia said:And so, the continued decline of Delta's network in Japan (which was widely predicted years ago) has now morphed into what everyone really wants to talk about it ... which is AA's failings in Latin America. Fantastic.
we are not shutting down DallasWorldTraveler said:can you share with us how you became so cynical esp. about mgmt?
DOT data can easily show that AA has used its profits in Latin America to subsidize its losses in Asia and to Europe in the winter.
Latin America simply will not provide the profits for AA this year that it has in the past due to increased competition, weaker economies, and a stronger dollar.
The fact that DL's Asian network makes money on a year round basis means DL is able to make the right decisions in Asia from a position of strength.
ah the good old, if you don't like it leave.WorldTraveler said:your problem is that you think the world revolves around you.
newsflash It doesn't.
DL's level of maintenance outsourcing FELL after the shutting of the maintenance facilities you mentioned. It was lower in 2009 right before the merger than it had been in years.
uh no it didn't. If they fell where is the work? I don't see it.
Did DL just stop doing maintenance....? or is it possible, just possible that DL figured out how to do the maintenance it did more efficiently?
given your clear paranoia with management, it is clear that you really don't belong in a large organization.
So its only me? Is it fun talking out of your ass? that is why you must do it so much.
why DO you stay?
You and Kev can start up a small business someplace - a long ways away from the rest of humanity - which is clearly out to get you both.
the paranoia and hatred that the union crowd has for management across the industry is notable - and it is also not representative of what the vast majority of DL people believe - and why you two are actually the outsiders.
yes it is.Kev3188 said:...Which is a shame, really...
I think most people would genuinely like to work in the sort of environment that's idealized in places like the RoTR & The Way We Fly.
Nice try at "othering."WorldTraveler said:the paranoia and hatred that the union crowd has for management across the industry is notable - and it is also not representative of what the vast majority of DL people believe - and why you two are actually the outsiders.
Kev3188 said:Nice try at "othering."
FWIW, I don't hate anyone; it's not worth the energy.
Oh yeah, I'm also on the inside. Right in the middle, as it were... Are you?
Vast majority? so vast the FA vote last time was less than 1000 people? I also believe the ramp vote had narrow margins too.WorldTraveler said:comm,
I never said that NRT AS A HUB isn't changing and shrinking.
What you refuse to acknowledge is that DL's total capacity over the Pacific is flat to up. DL is rerouting capacity away from NRT. UA is doing the same thing.
AA's market share from Japan is down considerably and the combined AA/JL share of the market has shrunk.
Japan IS a shrinking market.
DL, whether you want to admit it or not HAS held onto its Japan share better than others. That might change but so far it has not.
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OUTSIDE and INSIDE aren't defined by whether you get a DL paycheck or not but whether you understand and are part of the DL culture and family.
Kev has argued for years that the DL family doesn't exist; of course it doesn't for him. For others it does.
Kev is the outsider to an organization he has tried to remake to his own liking for 5 years.
Kev and dawg clearly fight the organization that the vast majority of their peers manage to succeed and fit in to.