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From what was said there was MISSING information on many cards. It is impossible to argue that the IAM was not responsible when cards had incorrect information. Maybe some of these many phone calls was an attempt to get the missing information but the first red flag the NMB could see was the amount of black spaces.
Complaints from DL FAs that they did not ever sign a card but the IAM said they had one for them was strike two.
I'm not sure the NMB ever got to the point of actually verifying signatures given the amount of chicken scratch and blank spaces that they saw.
step back from the keyboard and think.
Even if anti-IAM/anti-union people were behind perhaps thousands of fraudulent cards, there were nowhere near the number of valid cards. The IAM was negligent in identifying a valid support base.
The IAM made sure that the process failed by delivering thousands of incomplete cards.
There is simply no excuse for that to have happened.
None.
the IAM shot itself in the foot and chest and head and possibly has permanently rendered itself an unviable union even if DL employees decide they need one - which they repeatedly said they do not want.
The botched cards further validate that there has yet to be a valid card drive or vote that says that DL's largest non-pilot workgroups actually want a union.
As for the IAM's botched survey, employee numbers are the property of DL. The IAM should have never even had access to that information or used it in the IAM survey.
Nonetheless, employee numbers are very commonly known. The IAM is clearly happy to gain access to DL employee information as long as it can use it for its own (mis)use
http://www.thestreet.com/story/13103724/2/union-effort-to-organize-delta-flight-attendants-takes-strange-turn.html
The withdrawal came just four days after the union charged, in a posting on the www.iamdelta.net Web site, that a flight attendant survey had been hacked.
"After an exhaustive investigation conducted by the IAM, it is apparent that last month's IAM Delta flight attendant survey was compromised," the posting said. "As the survey was launched, so was an orchestrated campaign to sabotage it. Thousands of surveys were completed without one question answered -- they were just clicked through and submitted fraudulently.
"The only way to take the survey for another person was to know their last name and employee number," the posting said. "Only persons with access to this information could do this."
Complaints from DL FAs that they did not ever sign a card but the IAM said they had one for them was strike two.
I'm not sure the NMB ever got to the point of actually verifying signatures given the amount of chicken scratch and blank spaces that they saw.
Kevin,Kev3188 said:
step back from the keyboard and think.
Even if anti-IAM/anti-union people were behind perhaps thousands of fraudulent cards, there were nowhere near the number of valid cards. The IAM was negligent in identifying a valid support base.
The IAM made sure that the process failed by delivering thousands of incomplete cards.
There is simply no excuse for that to have happened.
None.
the IAM shot itself in the foot and chest and head and possibly has permanently rendered itself an unviable union even if DL employees decide they need one - which they repeatedly said they do not want.
The botched cards further validate that there has yet to be a valid card drive or vote that says that DL's largest non-pilot workgroups actually want a union.
As for the IAM's botched survey, employee numbers are the property of DL. The IAM should have never even had access to that information or used it in the IAM survey.
Nonetheless, employee numbers are very commonly known. The IAM is clearly happy to gain access to DL employee information as long as it can use it for its own (mis)use
http://www.thestreet.com/story/13103724/2/union-effort-to-organize-delta-flight-attendants-takes-strange-turn.html
The withdrawal came just four days after the union charged, in a posting on the www.iamdelta.net Web site, that a flight attendant survey had been hacked.
"After an exhaustive investigation conducted by the IAM, it is apparent that last month's IAM Delta flight attendant survey was compromised," the posting said. "As the survey was launched, so was an orchestrated campaign to sabotage it. Thousands of surveys were completed without one question answered -- they were just clicked through and submitted fraudulently.
"The only way to take the survey for another person was to know their last name and employee number," the posting said. "Only persons with access to this information could do this."
