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LAX, DFW, ORD, CLT. Maybe JFK or MIA as a focus city. Just my opinion. Under no circumstances do I see anyone in PHX with a hire date after 2005 if this merger goes through. And that's being optimistic.
I yield to Jester's response. That about covers my line of thinking.Why do you think this?
robbedagain,i agree the above post and bagchucker i also agree with you its only a matter of time but how would you look at it this way if your in a city lets say for example baltimore whereas you have mainline flights to the hubs and often military movements how do you see cities such as that staying either mainline or outsourced? i thought that may be us employees would be protected unless i misread that somewhere
Assuming PHX becomes like LAS, I think you will need to cut deeper into the stack than just 2005... something like 1997 and that holds only a part-time line? I could only imagine the cost of living in L.A. for a part-time job... maybe Dallas?
From what I read, yes the 50% rule would be the threshold, no longer 35%.700, necigrad, or Cargo,
Correct me if I’m wrong... but if this (US/AA) merger scenario comes to fruition, would it not be the first merger of two legacies, both represented my numerous Unions, post FAA Reauthorization Act?
If this is the case, it may very well prove to be legally arduous for the competing representation groups, and set precedents for any future combinations within the industry.
roabilly,700, necigrad, or Cargo,
Correct me if I’m wrong... but if this (US/AA) merger scenario comes to fruition, would it not be the first merger of two legacies, both represented my numerous Unions, post FAA Reauthorization Act?
If this is the case, it may very well prove to be legally arduous for the competing representation groups, and set precedents for any future combinations within the industry.
roabilly,
I believe you are correct. It would be the first merger of two legacy carriers with multiple unions post the FAA Reauthorization Act. The Act sets the bar at 50% + 1 (cards signed for an election) when organizing a new shop. I'm not certain if this requirement applies in this case. In this case both unions are already the duly elected bargaining representatives' of their respective work groups going in. If this requirement applies... would the 50% + 1 threshold be inclusive of the cards signed by both unions? Or would this requirement be by each individual union? As I stated earlier... our future in this merger senario is very cloudy. Many uncertainties, variables and decisions will need to be rendered. IMO... one thing is certain... the combined group needs to promote a pro union platform. If the unions are required to get 50% cards signed then every member should be signing cards. For if both unions fall short of the 50% requirement the end result is decertification. I've been through that result once before and I, along with many of the members on the property, are still paying for it. The need to educate, direct and engage the membership has never been so crucial. This task must be coordinated and lead by the IAM Grand Lodge and District 141 leadership. It will be a defining moment for both and more importantly the existing IAM Fleet Service membership.
Cargo,
You and I share the same insight... this merger... “if” it happens, could very well prove to be a defining point in Fleet Service history!
I foresee a situation that may require an NMB ruling regarding interpretation of the “revised” RLA under the re-authorization act. As far as I am concerned, this is far more important than anything else at this point. Considering the time lines regarding negotiation schedules, this could easily be factor BEFORE we reach any Tentative Agreement. Such a ruling could determine which, if ANY bargaining unit represents us!
ALL labor groups should be aware of this... but little is being said, because no one knows exactly how it may play out! This is why I get frustrated with the idiots on here griping and whining about petty issues, when the REAL issues are getting ignored, or most likely not even realized!
If you are an employee in this work group, you better get head out of your a**... and start getting educated. Complaining about the Leadership, is not preparing this bargaining unit for the future... it only serves to weaken it!
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Maybe, maybe not. If part of the master plan is to evacuate the West Coast market then we'll likely see it. There's a lot more that goes into the viability of a hub than fares charged and proximity to other hubs, as important factors as those are they are but two variables in a complicated dynamic.I potentially see PHX dropping to 50 or fewer flights within three years of the merger.