Teamsters posting Names of Card signers at LAX

I think there are quite a few of us who agree with LAX amt, I would prefer AMFA, I would like to see the TWU go............ I haven't signed a teamsters card and I won't but I have seen more supporters lately at AFW, (the few that are left of us.....), how many are signing out of frustration?
 
Jim you've been beating this AMFA horse for YEARS and have gotten us nowhere. Trust me most of us would prefer a craft union over the IBT but AMFA just can't quite seem to get it done. Year after year after year after year. Well guess what? We're getting sick of waiting. We're sick of hearing the same old rhetoric and same old excuses. Your preaching to the choir here pal but if you guys can't get it together the IBT is going to kick AMFA to the curb. The line stations aren't the problem TULE is. If you guys can't go in there and win TULE over once and for all do you guys think we have any confidence in AMFA to someday successfully negotiate us an industry leading contract? Or at the very least start digging us out of the hole that the TWU got us into?
The fact that you guys flew out here and couldn't even get on the property to talk to us is pathetic. What did you guys do? Throw your hands up in the air, get back on the plane and go home? Is that what we can expect from AMFA when difficult contract negotiations come up? Is that all you got? (that was a question, I expect an answer).

Trust me here, we at LAX would prefer AMFA. We don't want to be represented by a truck drivers union any more then we do by this bus drivers union but if AMFA can't get it done we're ready to back the stronger horse.

And nobody here gives a s__t what Bobby Gless says. We told him to piss off back in 03 when him and Chris Oryanio and the rest of that TWU dog and pony show showed up out here to sell us on that "Pull together, Win together" Bulls__t and we'll tell him again, preferably to his face.
They're done. Their time is over. They had their chance and they sold us out. Time for change!

To answer your question:

When we were denied access to talk to AMTs on the property we didn't throw our hands in the air and go home. Actually we put our hands in our jacket pockets because it was freezing on January 14 and we stood in the parking lot and talked to guys as they came to work or left work. Louie Key, AMFA National Director, (the guy we get to vote for), was right there next to us. We didn't give up because some spineless punks are afraid of the truth about a craft union so they run to management to deny us access. We are committed to this fight. LAX is perhaps tired of signing cards but each AMFA card we get signed from LAX gets us that much closer to getting rid of the twu and their suck asses. If you care to help get cards signed in LAX then send Jim or I a message. We WILL get rid of the twu at AA!
 
get your facts straight before you post. do the math for me and show me like your teacher had you do in front of the class on the chalk board. what a bunch of what now? come on Johnny come up to the front of the class and show us how you got your answer.
 
get your facts straight before you post. do the math for me and show me like your teacher had you do in front of the class on the chalk board. what a bunch of what now? come on Johnny come up to the front of the class and show us how you got your answer.
 
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Your question?

Did we get back on the airplane and fly home? "NO"

since you know who I am, there is an email feature thru this site use it so I will know who you are? I did get on to the AOA with another X lax amt. Both of us were escorted into the hanger we seen a few guys from 1500 and the B check guys. Said hellos
and told them who was here and what the plan was.

I went upstairs talked to both the "powers to be" said hello as well, was shown a letter that NO organizing was allowed on AA property. they also was explained why?
I am a man of my word, and always have been , so I said that would not happen, so we set up out side the gate and talked to everyone as they came into and left to work that day. I along with the others who were there got alot of cards signed. We were there from 1500 thru 0200, since we told the AMFA organizers there that we would provide food which was going to be done in the bay 11 break room we did send in 20 pizzas to the guys around 1130pm.

"You" are correct we need tulsa to get it done, there are guys there working hard to get that done as well. Its not the line stations, they have been on board every time.
 
$350 where do you come up with this number? using your Texas hold them line? Teamsters 2.5 x all in. get your facts straight or stop your lying which ever it is.
 
base pay $28.02. AMFA base x 2 ($28.02 x 2 =$56.04) per month. $56.04 x 12 = $672.48. base pay $28.02 IBT base x2.5 ($28.02x2.5=$70.05) per month $70.05 x 12 = $840.60 $14.01 per month or $168.12 per year. works out to less than 9 cents per hour. that's the TRUE MATH
 
less than 9 cents to be a Teamster. hell yeah. one of the strongest labor organizations in the country.
 
$350 where do you come up with this number? using your Texas hold them line? Teamsters 2.5 x all in. get your facts straight or stop your lying which ever it is.

Is it "all in" or 'Base Rate". Base rate can be defined different ways, our dues are actually off our chart rate, as our base rate in the contract is our "all in" regular hourly rate(license etc).

So the question is do they charge us based upon the "chart rate", not including License, shift, long etc or do they charge based on our "Base Rate" -regular straight time hourly rate inclusive of license and shift premiums?

Maybe someone from UAL or CAL can answer that because as you can see it makes a big difference.
 
base pay $28.02. AMFA base x 2 ($28.02 x 2 =$56.04) per month. $56.04 x 12 = $672.48. base pay $28.02 IBT base x2.5 ($28.02x2.5=$70.05) per month $70.05 x 12 = $840.60 $14.01 per month or $168.12 per year. works out to less than 9 cents per hour. that's the TRUE MATH
http://www.teamster.org/content/frequently-asked-questions-faq#faq05
How much will I pay in dues?

Teamsters Union dues are 2.5 times the hourly wage rate per month. For example, if you make $12 an hour, your dues would be $30 per month. However, if you make less than $11 an hour, then your dues rate is 2 times your hourly rate. And if you are a public sector employee, your dues rate is 2.25 times your hourly rate.
Also, some locals may charge initiation fees and these vary by location. Talk to a local union representative for details.


I also asked this question to the organizer that came to my house and she said that it is 2.5x the all-in rate including any premiums.
 
works out to less than 9 cents per hour. that's the TRUE MATH

Even though your math is wrong, I am not willing to pay another penny into this contract. I have no issues with my local representatives at AFW, in Miami, or with any of the line locals. So why would I pay 18 cents more an hour for a different international, unelected business agents, and the same lousy contract?
 

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