2014 Fleet Service Discussion

[cltrat]

As usual... the closer Nelson gets to a defeat, the more unraveled he comes! Take “Jet Job” for instance – Nelson was 100% sure it was DL, and slandered him to for over a year for it. Now... he’s convinced it’s someone named “Joe” from UNITED! I guess DL must be a pretty good dude, because most folks would have sent a legal cease and desist by now!
 
All of this leads me to believe that another chapter in political mud-slinging will have no effect on the current team. As a matter of fact... it is having the opposite effect!
All of the feedback I’m getting indicates a major loss for UFC!
 
Meanwhile, our leaders have been doing their jobs, and diligently pursuing an agreement for PMUS, just as the Membership mandates.
 
Stay Strong Fleet... make sure you VOTE in June...
 

you could be right on the outcome, on the other hand sheer numbers tell me that UA is going to decide this election and they don't seem to happy with the current group so as they say, we'll see

 

[freedom]

The IAM pension is guaranteed. ..All of you should know this ...

And in our world promises are NEVER broken...

Ever.

 

[mike33]

The IAM pension is guaranteed. ..All of you should know this ...

And in our world promises are NEVER broken...

Ever.

is that all you have?
 
I have to say though that the part time issue of only $.65 is not fair.  Although a lot of P/T are here to fly and have other jobs. Those that aren't should be trying to get F/T.

 

[Tim Nelson]

you could be right on the outcome, on the other hand sheer numbers tell me that UA is going to decide this election and they don't seem to happy with the current group so as they say, we'll see

Based on all the support we have received and continue to build upon, this will be brutal for Team Delaney and even much worse than when he beat up on Canale.  I'm not even joking, this is going to be an old fashioned ass kicking.  It won't have nothing to do with me.  They are so despised because they have thoroughly embarrassed the members so bad that the "Membership Machine" is going to deliver "Great Pain" to them since they just didn't listen and disrespected the membership with the anti union 2008 US AIRWAYS agreement and Open end United agreement.
 
Remember Cltrat, none of the US AIRWAYS candidates on Team Delaney's ticket were original 2008 New Direction members.  Instead he drafted the majority of his team from the old 2008 US AIRWAYS contract team.  As far as United goes, you stand correct, brother.  Team Delaney has incited them to come out strongly against them due to their experience of signing anti-labor agreements.

 

[Tim Nelson]

fwrd:
 
An Open Post to All : I feel your struggles....I do

It is time we take ''our'' union back. I am Matt Dougherty and have been with US since 1986 and completely understand the aches and pains we all have been and continue to go through. The Rich Delaney led team has had over 5 years to deliver on the promises they ran their campaign on. They are failing. As each month and pay periods pass by we as ...members sit back and look to each paycheck asking what bills can I pay this week and which ones do I let pass. The airline industry is ''Booming'' and yet we would never know that or see it reflected in our pay or the respect from both our elected representatives and management. Those two anymore seem to be more synonyms than two separate groups. These elected reps smile and laugh at us as they say, ''they can do that'' or ''I'll get back to you.'' They leave the monthly meetings (when they attend) and drive away in $50,000 cars and SUV's while I hurry home to an alarm clock set to allow me to work OT or swap to make ends meet in my dented up car. The chasm has widened and they fail to recognize the needs of the members.

The ''Unified for Change'' team offers an opportunity that allows us to have a voice again. We have not been heard and we need to change that. With people like Eulo from UA and Nelson from US we will once again be able to speak. These 2 are a perfect example of seeing the goal line and doing what is best for the members. The Unified for Change Team is diverse from the small stations to the large hubs. They represent the spectrum of our work force form gender to race---from the low scale to top end (also low scale). We can have a voice from what ever your seat. They offer hope and I need that. I trust in them and believe they will begin from day 1 offering that.

It begins this June with an election to take by some of the seats that our reps feel are theirs and how dare we question them. If you feel as I do--- vote. The current IAM leaders hope you do not vote because low voter turnout usually means everything will stay status quo. That is a disgrace, to hope for silence from your members. I'd scream for support and votes as the UFC slate is doing. We need them as much as they need us.

They, the Unified for Change, need our support and they have mine. They also have MY VOTE and if I can help it many more votes from my friends who also are my co-workers. Carl Calabrese thank you for adding your name to the slate in PHL. My vote and my thanks will be for UFC.

I bought the Delaney BS but more so out of my disdain for Canale. I'm sold on the UFC based on their slate--the names---the stations--the spectrum from where they come from and the real chance to be heard again. WE ARE STILL HERE !!! and we need our voice back.

Good Luck you have all my support and many others I work with in Philadelphia Pa.

Matt Dougherty May 86'
IBT til 1990
IAM since early 90's
Union all the time

LL1776 Essington Pa.

 

[700UW]

I am going to write to the moderators, we need a thread that is US fleet and the Political crap needs its own thread.

 

[mike33]

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[SIZE=12pt]Contributions and employee’s Employee Designated Roth Contributions, up to a total amount of 5.5% of an employee’s Eligible Compensation (as defined in the $uper $aver Plan). [/SIZE]
 
[SIZE=12pt]Tim............ Show me where it says 5.5% of $23.00 .............!!!!!!!!!!!![/SIZE]

 

[Tim Nelson]

 



The Company, subject to any laws limiting the amount of benefit which can be contributed to or accrued under a plan qualified under Section 401(a) of the Internal Revenue Code of 1986, as amended from time to time, and its regulations, will, for each employee who has at least one year of Eligibility Service, contribute to the $uper $aver Plan on a pre-tax basis for each Plan Year as an Employer Matching Contribution 100% of the aggregated amount of the employee’s Employee Before-tax




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Contributions and employee’s Employee Designated Roth Contributions, up to a total amount of 5.5% of an employee’s Eligible Compensation (as defined in the $uper $aver Plan). 
 
Tim............ Show me where it says 5.5% of $23.00 .............!!!!!!!!!!!!



 

This is the figure that will be used in September.  The figure will rise to over $24 later in the contract.  For discussion, it's best to focus on the compensation of this year imo.    At any rate, it's much higher of a cost for the company than paying .65 cents an hour into a IAMPF for 40% of our members. Just saying.

 

[Tim Nelson]

I am going to write to the moderators, we need a thread that is US fleet and the Political crap needs its own thread.

Why don't you just bud out of a group that you are not active in and focus on the MX.  Are you going to go cry like a baby to the mods about AMFA and want to separate that from the MX thread as well.  Leave us alone 700, you are not fleet service.  Stop dabbling into our business. K?  Or I'll come over to the MX board and start talking about how Tommy reagon was never a mechanic and is just lying to everyone. lol
 
I have more stuff on Tom if you want me to post.  Leave fleet service alone 700 or your boy is going to take on some additional damage over on the MX board.

 

[P. REZ]

Oh boy, you mean the negotiation team that can't get anything accomplished at any airline?  Really?  Gosh, I guess we are going to miss that...>NOT! 
 
I happen to like a few guys on the negotiation committee, none of which are District officers.  But, even if U4C gets in, the NC will be subject to Delaney.  Don't get me wrong, our District officers in the negotiations have done nothing and their failed strategy was a page taken from united.  MF is the worst and should have listened instead of backstabbing the membership and myself.  These morons just didn't listen.  I told them the error of their ways but they just didn't listen.   Now they are going to feel the horn of the membership machine and better order their uniforms.  No more vegas parties for them. Sorry.
 
With change, we will kick Delaney's ass into retirement where he may finally get a management job.  If he chooses to stay, he will face great pressure and no longer have a bunch of ass kissers who don't know the first thing about negotiation or leverage and are forced to abide by his dopey failed strategies.  Our members can finally get excited to have a chance to finally advance negotiations instead of goofy media name calling that amounts to nothing.  Delaney and group have no idea what they are doing and it's quite easy to see from an academic viewpoint.  As long as they don't completely sell out and walk into joint talks with another goose-egg $0 like they did when United management hoodwinked them,  the US AIRWAYS members stand to gain plenty.  But gone will be the Bull S&*T updates, and in will be a different approach that will conclude talks and bring our members a fair agreement.  The present group can't negotiate their way out of a closet.   See US AIRWAYS negotiations in 2008, and HAL and UAL negotiations. 
 
You are done Joe.  Your party is over.  You guys F up and you didn't listen.  Now you will be steamrolled by a membership machine that will start pounding you in about 30 days.  You will have yourself to blame.  And you can thank Delaney who also thinks you suck and left you on the two year term to get hammered this time.

Tim,
 
I would have responded sooner but I somehow got stuck in a closet and couldn't get out. Seriously, where do you get your information? Note to self, don't close door behind me when I walk into closet.  
 
P. Rez

 

[Tim Nelson]

Tim,
 
I would have responded sooner but I somehow got stuck in a closet and couldn't get out. Seriously, where do you get your information? Note to self, don't close door behind me when I walk into closet.  
 
P. Rez

You don't have any idea what you just did, do you?

 

[P. REZ]

You don't have any idea what you just did, do you?

Made a joke, or tried to anyway. What, not funny?

 

[700UW]

Why don't you just bud out of a group that you are not active in and focus on the MX.  Are you going to go cry like a baby to the mods about AMFA and want to separate that from the MX thread as well.  Leave us alone 700, you are not fleet service.  Stop dabbling into our business. K?  Or I'll come over to the MX board and start talking about how Tommy reagon was never a mechanic and is just lying to everyone. lol
 
I have more stuff on Tom if you want me to post.  Leave fleet service alone 700 or your boy is going to take on some additional damage over on the MX board.

Dont like it dont read it, you use this forum for your political gains that you never seem to be able to get.
 
Others feel the same way and have posted it.
 
"leave us alone"?
 
Who appointed you the spokesman for all of the US Fleet Group?
 
And when you buy the boards you can make the rules, and if you dont like it use the ignore feature.
 
I am nobody's boy and I post for myself and no one else.
 
But you like to make up lies.
 
If you want to start, be my guest, as we all know your history and you do more harm than good.
 
I guess you dont understand the difference between a political campaign and a representational election, you post for personal gain.

 

[mike33]

This is the figure that will be used in September.  The figure will rise to over $24 later in the contract.  For discussion, it's best to focus on the compensation of this year imo.    At any rate, it's much higher of a cost for the company than paying .65 cents an hour into a IAMPF for 40% of our members. Just saying.

  I think you are misleading....  The Super Saver is an american airlines plan...run by JP Morgan. Isn't that interesting !
 
Also i think you are confusing the $ per hr as the compensation figure when it is not.
It is 5.5% of what you contribute to a Maximum. 
 
My calculations Stand!!

 

[Tim Nelson]

Made a joke, or tried to anyway. What, not funny?

fair enough Pat