2014 Fleet Service Discussion

[roabilly]

My Dearest Roabilly,
Your web of deception and delusion is quite interesting. Truly amazing I'd say.  Ok, Roabilly, i'll bite.  I won every local union election I ever ran for.  My people know me and know I am relentless and get the job done.
Nobody is relentless on your team. They all have to make deals or waive off of time limits or don't have the respect of management and can't get things done at the station level.

All I will say Nelson is this... if your team “crushes” the others; it won’t be because of the PMUS vote! My prediction is you will throw in the towel, and claim you are going “fishing” after you lose in June.
 
My “team” as speak of them doesn’t exist... I told you, along with everyone else, that I’m voting a split ticket... I guess you have selective memory, or is it just your reality as projected through the Nelson lens of self promotion?

 

[ograc]

All I will say Nelson is this... if your team “crushes” the others; it won’t be because of the PMUS vote! My prediction is you will throw in the towel, and claim you are going “fishing” after you lose in June.
 
My “team” as speak of them doesn’t exist... I told you, along with everyone else, that I’m voting a split ticket... I guess you have selective memory, or is it just your reality as projected through the Nelson lens of self promotion?

A split ticket vote could be widespread. The wrath and the turnout of the UA members, who by the way, ratified the TA remains to be seen. IMO... the US side will stand pat with the current US candidates. US is still at a critical stage in Section 6 contract negotiations. How they vote concerning the UA candidates is anyone's guess. There is one candidate, on the UA side of the opposition slate, I would endorse.

 

[roabilly]

A split ticket vote could be widespread. The wrath and the turnout of the UA members, who by the way, ratified the TA remains to be seen. IMO... the US side will stand pat with the current US candidates. US is still at a critical stage in Section 6 contract negotiations. How they vote concerning the UA candidates is anyone's guess. There is one candidate, on the UA side of the opposition slate, I would endorse.

Cargo,
 
PM me with your endorsement... I'm open minded, and unbiased enough to take suggestions as I weed through these candidates...

 

[roabilly]

My Dearest Roabilly,
Your web of deception and delusion is quite interesting. Truly amazing I'd say.  Ok, Roabilly, i'll bite.  I won every local union election I ever ran for.  My people know me and know I am relentless and get the job done.
Nobody is relentless on your team. They all have to make deals or waive off of time limits or don't have the respect of management and can't get things done at the station level.

Mr. Nelson... you still have NOT answered the question...
 
How many "local" elections have you actually EVER run for?... None?... One?... Two?...
 
Was it for Grievance Chair in ORD?
 
I know for a fact that the organizing job that you were fired from was appointed... so that does not count!

 

[roabilly]

ORD and IAH voted strongly for the contract.  Most were lied to.  Others didn't trust the District leaders and figured that TA3 would just be the same thing, so some figured might as well vote for the contract and get the money then vote out the pansies. ORD and IAH are wanting bigtime change. Bank on it! I can assure you that Robilly doesn't know what he is talking about.

I can "assure" you that Nelson doesn't know what Roabilly is talking about... but he will (again) in June!

 

[Tim Nelson]

Mr. Nelson... you still have NOT answered the question...
 
How many "local" elections have you actually EVER run for?... None?... One?... Two?...
 
Was it for Grievance Chair in ORD?
 
I know for a fact that the organizing job that you were fired from was appointed... so that does not count!

Appointed jobs do not count my dearest Roabilly.
 
I was elected for multiple positions, yes, including as Local Chairman.  Never lost a local vote, ever.  Not bragging but since you asked.

 

[rockit2]

Question: Who is actually eligeable to vote in the June election's, I know active working members do, but what about retirees, bankers, laidoff utility workers ,aa members  and any other jagoff that post on this forum. Getting real tired of people who have nothing in the game trying to dominate this page.

 

[737823]

Question: Who is actually eligeable to vote in the June election's, I know active working members do, but what about retirees, bankers, laidoff utility workers ,aa members  and any other jagoff that post on this forum. Getting real tired of people who have nothing in the game trying to dominate this page.

As 700UW says "don't like it don't read it, place me on ignore"

Don't let the facts get in your way.

Josh

 

[rockit2]

As 700UW says "don't like it don't read it, place me on ignore"

Don't let the facts get in your way.

Josh

I'm not going to put you on ignore but if you showed up at a union function I would slap your ass around!

 

[737823]

I'm not going to put you on ignore but if you showed up at a union function I would slap your ass around!

I agreed to stay out of hype AMFA topic per AMFAinMIAMI's request

Should I go to LL 1726?

Josh

 

[Tim Nelson]

My question is that now that the release is now a foregone conclusion, what is the new plan for Team Delaney who claimed a release was coming, when myself and others told the truth and said VERY UNLIKELY?
 
This is going to be United Part Two, same lack of plan, same botched negotiation strategies.  There is a lot that needs to be cleaned up after the officer elections and I'm hopeful that real negotiations can finally take place to finally get a fair agreement instead of 6 years of BS and NOTHING from Team Delaney.

 

[robbedagain]

How do we know a release is a foregone conclusion? What if the proposal the compNy came up with has real merit that is worth looking into. Or the iam looks at it. Doesnt like then tells the nmb that its no good?

 

[WeAAsles]

Maybe while you guys were chatting you could have explained the $uper $aver plan to him that JP Morgan runs for AA. Or you could have just looked in the mirror and explained it to yourself.....Lol....Joke !
 
That is one out of WeAAsles playbook !  He must be on vacation!

What playbook? And yes I am on vacation but also backing away a little from all my social media activities a bit.

If you're talking about the 401K, the company "matches up" to 5.5% if you put in 5.5%. So all of your OT or extra hours worked counts as well. If you contribute nothing, the company will put in 3% under your name anyway including extra hours worked. I contribute 20% personally so I have that plus the 5.5% going in.

"I" have said again that "I" am not interested in being a part of the IAMPF if it's offered to me. And "I" also think I've stated very well why "I'm" not interested in it further on back in the thread.

If it's offered as an "option" to TWU members in the future I'm cool with that. But for "Me" I'd rather have more of a match on my 401 and a higher wage personally.

 

[Tim Nelson]

How do we know a release is a foregone conclusion? What if the proposal the compNy came up with has real merit that is worth looking into. Or the iam looks at it. Doesnt like then tells the nmb that its no good?

There will be no release.  Period.  That's over with.   Here is what Delaney said, "We saw a willingness by the company to move in a more positive way towards settling the critical issues of wages, benefits, and security"
 
Prior to that, Delaney said there was an impasse, yes?   There is no impasse when there is movement announced by your union leaders.  Because of that, the NMB recognized that and scheduled more talks.  The TWU will either file by June 9 for a single carrier or resolve it by July 9.  That's a fact.   The NMB NEVER has released any union, ever, when there is a single carrier petition on the table.  Even before Delaney announced movement,  it was incredibly unlikely that a release would come although we could hope.  That said, the offer they presented was a joke, and Team Delaney is entertaining things that I seriously doubt could get ratified.  Can you say, bad to worse with these guys?  Remember, these are the same people who can't square up your grievance with any sort of closure, and also brought back the lame 2008 agreement, and now got punked by management which played their release game to a T.   Team Delaney just mislead with more BS.  No release now.
 
First off, I truly wish they would focus more on putting additional monies into wage or establishing a match instead of being hellbent on tossing it into the IAMPF. 
We need leaders who will address 401k concerns first prior to tossing more into a fund that we have no control over.  
 
All is not lost though.  Management needs a settlement as well.  The key will be to keep the solidarity and support from the TWU in regards to stand alone talks past single carrier.  This is my main concern as Team Delaney lied to all of the United folks and after elections, just waived off stand alone talks and blamed the NMB.  We have to prevent that from repeating.  All lies for 6 years.

 

[700UW]

I agreed to stay out of hype AMFA topic per AMFAinMIAMI's request

Should I go to LL 1726?

Josh

Then since you arent a US employee and never have been and not an IAM member and never have been one, and never been a ramper, stay out of this one too.