2014 Pilot Discussion

[Phoenix]

 
Overkill. I was already feeling sorry for the boy.

 
 
Wow, imagine... just how many place all around the world a four pilot crew can reach, even in one duty period.

 

[Claxon]

eric auxier is an america west pilot hired in 1999.  he feels entitled,  I feel he has mental problems.  The company should take note.
 
"In 2005, a financially solvent America West Airlines bought US Airways"
 
"The America West pilots felt that because their airline rescued US Airways, the “West” pilots should at least get a fair blending in the seniority list with the “East” pilots."
 
"When asked about his thoughts on the new merger, and the possibility of new union representation by the Allied Pilots Association (APA), which is the current pilot’s union at American Airlines, US Airways Captain Eric Auxier had this to say: “I fully expect APA to do the honorable thing and abide by whatever arbitrated agreement emerges, contrary to USAPA, which was created for the purpose of reneging on its legally binding obligation to honor the USAir seniority list. For this very reason, USAPA was found guilty of DFR (Duty of Fair Representation) by unanimous jury verdict.”
 
 
"Regarding which list the New American Airlines should use, Auxier says:  “that list and present their own list to their advantage and our disadvantage.” There is one legal seniority list, the two pilot groups hammered it out, the arbitrator presented it, the pilot groups accepted it, they presented it to the company, the company accepted it, so that’s the list that we hold to and USAPA is fighting to steal"
 
http://www.nycaviation.com/2013/12/americanus-airways-merger-view-35000-feet/#.Usy_NPXO_gs

The above article was published in NYC Aviaiton.  Capn aux writes for that magazine in the above quotes where he was quoted about his quotes about himself. 
 
Eric, you plagiarized yourself.
 
Eric Auxier @capnaux

Airline Capt by day-writer by night-kid by choice. Writer for @AirwaysMagazine & @NYCAviation. #AvGeek #airline #author: http://lastbushpilots.com  #blogformation

PHX · capnaux.blogspot.com

 

[EastUS1]

 


 

Eric Auxier @capnaux

Airline Capt by day-writer by night-kid by choice.

 
Ummm..."-kid by choice."...? Methinks not, just "kid" by way of personal limitations and clearly arrested developmental issues. No matter "cap'n aux". Just cue up the "heroic" music, and show us another spine-tingling, instrument panel view. 😉 Claxon?...Content yourself that we're getting off easy here. Just imagine if that kid drove UPS trucks or Yellow Cabs....We'd now be besieged by "heroic" videos of brake pedals, speedometers, Stop Signs and the like, maybe even gas gauges!...Things beyond mere mortals/etc...With perhaps even "Ride of the Valkyries" as musical background. Proper apologies, if due to any, but I simpy can't even begin to take these "spartans" even the least bit seriously anymore. 🙂

 

[EastUS1]

If the company found there was, would they be liable? (sarcasm) 

 
 
How cynical. Such a thought never even crossed my mind. 🙂

 

[Claxon]

Ummm..."-kid by choice."...? Methinks not, just "kid" by way of personal limitations and clearly arrested developmental issues. No matter "cap'n aux". Just cue up the "heroic" music, and show us another spine-tingling, instrument panel view. 😉 Claxon?...Content yourself that we're getting off easy here. Just imagine if that kid drove UPS trucks or Yellow Cabs....We'd now be besieged by "heroic" videos of brake pedals, speedometers, Stop Signs and the like, maybe even gas gauges!...Things beyond mere mortals/etc...With perhaps even "Ride of the Valkyries" as musical background. Proper apologies, if due to any, but I simpy can't even begin to take these "spartans" even the least bit seriously anymore. 🙂

Careful, Cap'n Aux and Snappy are very, very close buds.

 

[Freighterguynow]

Fellow Pilots,
Over the past three weeks, you have seen ridiculous accusation after accusation thrown at us by the CLT and PHL reps.
We have been unjustly accused of taking bribes, holding secret meetings, paying off lawyers and even mistreating our dogs.
There have been allegations, assertions, innuendos and whisper campaigns directed against us - without one shred of evidence ever being presented because none of it is true.
Our Team took office on April 18, 2012. Before the polls close tomorrow and you cast your vote, ask yourself one simple question:

• Are you and your family better off today?

Regards,
Gary Hummel, President
Stephen Bradford, Vice President
Vote NO, NO, NO https://www.ballotpoint.com/USAPA/cgi-bin/dispatcher.pl?func=menu_LOGIN
Visit our website http://www.votenorecall.org/



Put a return address on your mailings.

 

[snapthis]

INTERVENOR US AIRWAYS, INC.S MOTION FOR INJUNCTION AGAINST USAPA PURSUANT TO THE ALL WRITS ACT

Case 2:13-cv-00471-ROS Document 297 Filed 01/07/14 Page 2 of 12

1 Intervenor US Airways, Inc. (US Airways) hereby moves this Court for an
2 injunction pursuant to the All Writs Act, 28 U.S.C. § 1651, to prevent Defendant
3 US Airline Pilots Association (USAPA) from pursuing arbitration of its December 24,
4 2013 grievance in MTA Dispute #2 with respect to whether, absent an order from this
5 Court, the Plaintiff West Pilot Class is entitled to participate through separate
6 representation in the seniority-integration process arising from the merger involving
7 US Airways and American Airlines, Inc. (American). Such arbitration should be
8 enjoined because the arbitral ruling sought by USAPA would interfere with and encroach
9 upon this Courts determination of the West Pilots right to separate participation pursuant
10 to federal law (i.e., the McCaskill-Bond statute), as established in US Airways
11 Intervention Pleading and Motion for Summary Judgment and in Claim Four of Plaintiffs
12 First Amended Complaint. (See US Airways Intervention Pleading (Doc. No. 197)
13 ¶¶ 11-16; US Airways Motion For Summary Judgment Claim Regarding McCaskill-
14 Bond Statute (Doc. No. 212); First Amended Complaint (Doc. No. 134) ¶¶ 120-134.)
15 US Airways bases this motion on the following Memorandum of Points and
16 Authorities and the attached Exhibit.

Case 2:13-cv-00471-ROS Document 297 Filed 01/07/14 Page 3 of 12
17 US Airways did not agree in the MOU to preclude West Pilot participation in the
18 seniority-integration process, but instead US Airways has stated that if the issue of
19 separate representation for the West Pilots is not resolved by time of the Effective Date of
20 the merger, then, as part of negotiating the Seniority Integration Protocol Agreement
21 required by paragraph 10.f of [the MOU], it will insist that the West Pilots be given
22 separate representation in the seniority integration proceeding through a representative of
23 their own choosing. (Joint Pre-Trial Order (Doc. No. 206-1) ¶ 159.)

IV. CONCLUSION
For the foregoing reasons, US Airways respectfully requests that the Court grant its
motion for an injunction pursuant to the All Writs Act, prohibiting USAPA from pursuing
arbitration of its grievance in MTA Dispute #2 regarding whether the West Pilots are
entitled to separate participation in the US Airways-American seniority integration
process prior to this Courts plenary ruling on that issue.

PROPOSED] ORDER GRANTING INTERVENOR US AIRWAYS, INC.S MOTION FOR INJUNCTION AGAINST USAPA PURSUANT TO THE ALL
IT IS HEREBY ORDERED that the Motion For Injunction is GRANTED.
IT IS FURTHER ORDERED that defendant US Airline Pilots Association is hereby ENJOINED from pursuing arbitration of any grievance over whether the West Pilots are entitled to participate through separate representation in the seniority-integration
Case 2:13-cv-00471-ROS Document 297-2 Filed 01/07/14 Page 2 of 2

1 process arising from the merger involving US Airways, Inc. and American Airlines, Inc.
2 prior to the time when this Court issues a definitive ruling on that question, including
3 arbitration of the grievance in MTA #2 filed by USAPA on December 24, 2013.
[PROPOSED] ORDER GRANTING US AIRWAYS MOT. FOR INJUNCTION AGAINST USAPA CASE NO. 2:13-CV-00471-ROS

[PROPOSED] ORDER GRANTING US AIRWAYS MOT. FOR INJUNCTION AGAINST USAPA CASE NO. 2:13-CV-00471-ROS

 

[Bill Brasky]

I just wonder how liable the company will be if ANY west class pilot feels that they don't get a good deal AFTER the company has allowed some arbitrarily selected members to represent them at the SLI meetings.  Seems like they are setting themselves up for a real big law suit by not allowing the legally elected and recognized collective bargaining agent complete the deal.
 
The company is setting this thing up to stretch out forever, and also setting themselves up for some HUGE lawsuits by interjecting themselves into this.  AOL will finally have a real lawsuit to file that may actually win them some moolah.

 

[Phoenix]

I just wonder how liable the company will be if ANY west class pilot feels that they don't get a good deal AFTER the company has allowed some arbitrarily selected members to represent them at the SLI meetings.  Seems like they are setting themselves up for a real big law suit by not allowing the legally elected and recognized collective bargaining agent complete the deal.
 
The company is setting this thing up to stretch out forever, and also setting themselves up for some HUGE lawsuits by interjecting themselves into this.  AOL will finally have a real lawsuit to file that may actually win them some moolah.

There is a reason representative agents are certified by the NMB. The company's choice to negotiate with anyone they choose seems to be absent from the law.

And their inventive reading of the MOU is ludicrous... Because the MOU does not exclude the plaintiffs from having representative agents the company thinks they can allow representative agents that are not even parties to the MOU.

The lawyers have escaped the asylum and are inventing conflict to perpetuate their own jobs. Integrity be damned. 😉

 

[fifidriver]

"...Integrity be damned."
 
 
Now that's funny, all things considered.

 

[flyer63]

Isn't it funny how when we tried many times to talk to the west about solutions. They said we can't we don't have any legal entity, and now they have elected their own merger committe and are ready to go. Looking for flight pay loss and all

 

[Phoenix]

Isn't it funny how when we tried many times to talk to the west about solutions. They said we can't we don't have any legal entity, and now they have elected their own merger committe and are ready to go. Looking for flight pay loss and all

 
Integrity be damned. 

 

[snapthis]

Isn't it funny how when we tried many times to talk to the west about solutions. They said we can't we don't have any legal entity, and now they have elected their own merger committe and are ready to go. Looking for flight pay loss and all

 
 
Yet it's OK to extort money from the West.
 
Oh btw, where's DOH and that industry leading contract?
 
Insert crickets here_____

 

[flyer63]

Yeah you poor victim. I believe in the end your misguided attempt will be quashed

 

[Bill Brasky]

 Apparently, it's in the same room as all the west's damages.....probably would have had a contract a long time ago had it not for all the legal shenanigans, except that the company has done everything they could to keep both sides fighting with each other.