Agreed! Would never refuse a jumpseat., What is actually hilarious about the post the word "safety" was mentioned as an excuse, Are we not under some type of injunction the WEST helped perpetuate? Can not make this stuff up besides l would like to say it is a new low for the LEADUSUNHIREABLES, but it is just childish as usual for these guys!EastUS1 said:
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With a 92% participation, 70% of the American Eagle pilots have rejected the concessionary contract proposed by the company.
Here is ALPA's official press release:
EULESS, TX—American Eagle pilots, represented by the Air Line Pilots Association, Int’l (ALPA) expressed their collective will and today rejected a concessionary contract proposed by American Airlines Group (AAG). With 92 percent of the eligible pilots casting their ballots, 70 percent voted against ratification of the contract.
“The Eagle pilots made a clear choice today, and it was not an easy one,” said Capt. Bill Sprague, chairman of the Eagle ALPA Master Executive Council. “Despite threats from AAG management that they would seek other express carriers to conduct our flying, today’s vote demonstrates that the demands for contract concessions were not acceptable. Today’s vote clearly shows that pilots can, and will, vote against any agreement that is not in their best interests.”
The proposed contract changes were a combination of pay freezes, reductions in per diem, and increased health-care costs in exchange for a promise to refleet the airline and enhance the existing agreement to transfer pilots to American Airlines. These concessions were in addition to the $43 million the pilots gave the company during bankruptcy last year.
Having previously worked under a 16-year contract that concluded with AMR’s bankruptcy filing, the American Eagle pilots have not seen meaningful contractual gains since 2004. New-hire pilot pay begins at less than $23,000 per year. Had the contract been approved, first officers would have been capped at about $38,000 per year after four years of service.
“Management has said many times to us that this agreement is their ‘bottom line’ offer and believe that they will be able to get the same cost savings from another provider,” Sprague said. “We question whether any regional airline is able to attract and retain pilots by offering poverty-level wages. American Eagle already has a career progression arrangement with American, and yet, due to a lack of pilots, it’s unable to perform the regional flying that American Airlines desires. Other airlines are experiencing the same problem.”
Founded in 1931, ALPA is the world’s largest airline pilots union, representing more than 50,000 pilots at 33 airlines in the United States and Canada, including the more than 2,700 pilots at American Eagle Airlines. Visit the ALPA website at www.alpa.org.
Here is ALPA's official press release:
EULESS, TX—American Eagle pilots, represented by the Air Line Pilots Association, Int’l (ALPA) expressed their collective will and today rejected a concessionary contract proposed by American Airlines Group (AAG). With 92 percent of the eligible pilots casting their ballots, 70 percent voted against ratification of the contract.
“The Eagle pilots made a clear choice today, and it was not an easy one,” said Capt. Bill Sprague, chairman of the Eagle ALPA Master Executive Council. “Despite threats from AAG management that they would seek other express carriers to conduct our flying, today’s vote demonstrates that the demands for contract concessions were not acceptable. Today’s vote clearly shows that pilots can, and will, vote against any agreement that is not in their best interests.”
The proposed contract changes were a combination of pay freezes, reductions in per diem, and increased health-care costs in exchange for a promise to refleet the airline and enhance the existing agreement to transfer pilots to American Airlines. These concessions were in addition to the $43 million the pilots gave the company during bankruptcy last year.
Having previously worked under a 16-year contract that concluded with AMR’s bankruptcy filing, the American Eagle pilots have not seen meaningful contractual gains since 2004. New-hire pilot pay begins at less than $23,000 per year. Had the contract been approved, first officers would have been capped at about $38,000 per year after four years of service.
“Management has said many times to us that this agreement is their ‘bottom line’ offer and believe that they will be able to get the same cost savings from another provider,” Sprague said. “We question whether any regional airline is able to attract and retain pilots by offering poverty-level wages. American Eagle already has a career progression arrangement with American, and yet, due to a lack of pilots, it’s unable to perform the regional flying that American Airlines desires. Other airlines are experiencing the same problem.”
Founded in 1931, ALPA is the world’s largest airline pilots union, representing more than 50,000 pilots at 33 airlines in the United States and Canada, including the more than 2,700 pilots at American Eagle Airlines. Visit the ALPA website at www.alpa.org.
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Mean while on the East.. another 4 day Easter weekend, 4 day Memorial weekend. The pilots trapped in PHX with no end in sight, thanks to AOL can not be happy.luvthe9 said:
Bid after bid out east opens up huge opportunities that the west cannot take advantage of.. DOH for the west and they would be doing very well. Every month we get double digit new hires below us, meanwhile out west, no end in site. AOL is in trouble out west.
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Lufthansa pilots announce three-day strike for next week
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(Reuters) - Lufthansa (LHAG.DE) pilots will hold a three-day strike from April 2 to April 4, their union said on Friday, as they seek to pressure the German airline in pay and contract negotiations.
"We won't let ourselves be given the run around by Lufthansa," union Vereinigung Cockpit, which represents around 5,400 Lufthansa pilots, said in a statement on Friday..
"We won't let ourselves be given the run around by Lufthansa,".............Maybe Hummel should take note after that pitiful joint update.
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(Reuters) - Lufthansa (LHAG.DE) pilots will hold a three-day strike from April 2 to April 4, their union said on Friday, as they seek to pressure the German airline in pay and contract negotiations.
"We won't let ourselves be given the run around by Lufthansa," union Vereinigung Cockpit, which represents around 5,400 Lufthansa pilots, said in a statement on Friday..
"We won't let ourselves be given the run around by Lufthansa,".............Maybe Hummel should take note after that pitiful joint update.
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Maybe he would if the labor laws in the United States were anything at all like those in Germany.
They're not.
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Don't upset his delusions of power...it will spark another episode of depression induced binge eating.nycbusdriver said:
What a fascinating work of fiction. Do you speak in tongues as well?snapthis said:Punishment? This coming from someone who shot himself in the foot.
Yousaps recently put out an update concerning Jumpseat denials. Most Westies are in agreement that simply denying a Jumpseat because he's an Eastie is wrong. The troublemakers are well known, so if you bounce into PIzzaTheHut, let him know he's on the naughty list.The intent behind this is to emphasize that arbitrary denials are wrong. Do not deny a pilot because he is a member of a specific group. Please always keep in mind that if the pilot requesting is a jerk, well then deny that pilot. The founding fathers of usapa and some of the elected officials fit that description ( as well as a few others). A couple handfuls out of 3,500 pilots.
Westies have a little wake-up call for some in light of the hostile work environment created by USAPs...Safety first!
Some recent comments concerning the update:
"Yes it does suffice to deny a jumpseater in the interest of safety. If Cleary, Bradford or any other choice USAPA pilot were in the jumpseat, it would be either he or I who gets off the airplane (if he has to sit in jumpseat). If things were bad enough, a USAPA pilot of such staunch USAPA background could create, rather than trap more errors in the cockpit, even if he kept quiet. "
"Just had PTH on the seat from CLT to PHX. Tried to think of anything to keep that dude off the flight deck."
"We lit into that Fat B@S%^& like a mouse takes to cheese. We all know he is a lying four flushin sack so have some fun with it."
"PTH is the equivalent of Anderson on any flight deck. We are taught to build barriers (or is it beariers?) to stay out of the yellow. Prior to pushback, I've got an easy solution for that barrier. PTH can sit in the back or take a different flight home. And that rule stands for the next 12 years and 2 days of my career here."
"I had to do exactly that with the hut."
"It's a short list of names from the USAPA list. PTH is on it. There would have been nothing to talk about. Sometimes, #### happens when you commute to/from work."
The most revealing part is the stupidity of one obsessed with twittering about being away at sea on vacation while disclosing where he lives In PHX. In real time.
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. Polygraph Statement of Mr. Mark C. DoyalRes Judicata said:
I had always wanted to be an FBI agent. With that singular goal in mind, I enrolled in Southwest Texas State University in the fall of 1988. My major was Law Enforcement with a minor in Economics. I graduated in December 1990 and I took the written FBI exam that next January. I passed and was scheduled for an interview in March of 1991. The interview went great and I achieved a perfect score. However, the FBI determined that I needed more experience and informed me to re-apply in two years. I immediately took the Law School Admissions Test and applied to South Texas College of Law in Houston, Texas. I was excepted for the class beginning in January 1991. I was fortunate in that I was able to obtain employment on a full time basis with the Harris County District Attorney's Office - Economic Crime Division. I remember my new boss asking me after he interviewed me what I planned on achieving with a law career. I immediately responded that I wanted a career with the FBI. Everyone who I met knew that that was my goal.
Working full time for the District Attorney while attending law school at night was tough, but I knew I had to get the right kind of experience and education to make myself the best possible candidate for the FBI. Upon graduation from law school (Dec. 1994), I re-applied with the FBI. I was scheduled to take the written exam on a Monday following the Bar exam. I again passed the written exam and had to wait to be selected for the interview. I wrote letters nearly every month to the applicant coordinator asking to be interviewed and explaining what I was doing each month. Finally, I was selected to be interviewed in Kansas City in July of 1996. Seven of us in our region were selected to go, but only two of us passed the interview process. Myself and another girl. I was on top of the world, knowing that I was about to realize my dream.
The polygraph exam was next, August 7, 1996, in San Antonio, Texas. I knew I had nothing to worry about, since I had never violated the FBI's drug policy and I had not lied on my application. The agent administering the polygraph noted during the pre- polygraph interview that I had attended a university that he believed was a "party school" and that I needed to tell him what drugs I used when I went there. I stated that I had taken none, that I didn't live on campus, I lived in another city, and that I was an older student and wasn't influenced to do such things. He repeated that that couldnít be the case and told me again to tell him what illegal drugs I had done. I countered again that that just wasn't the case and that I was telling the truth. This went back and forth for about 10 minutes and he seemed to be getting upset that I wouldnít admit to taking drugs. Finally he stated that if I was lying he was about to find out. I was upset at the unbelievable accusations he was making. Up until that point I had been treated with the utmost professionalism by the FBI staff, now I was being treated like an accused criminal. After the polygraph was over, he told me I had failed. I almost passed out in disbelief
I wrote several letters to FBI Director Freeh, and in October of 1996 I was polygraphed again, by another agent with the first agent who polygraphed me present. The results were the same, he told me I had failed. I just could not believe it. I had not lied on the polygraph. Even the first agent that had polygraphed me told me as I was leaving that he now believed me, that I was telling the truth. I wrote the Director several more times to no avail, my application was terminated in November of that year. My dreams were shattered.
Finally, as a side note, I later applied with the Secret Service. I did just as well in the testing and interview stages as I had with the FBI. When it came time for the polygraph, the agent administering it asked me if I had been polygraphed before. I told him yes, and under what circumstances and the results. He thanked me for my honesty, unhooked me from the polygraph without testing me and told me that he would have to contact his superiors for their advice. I could not believe it. Two months later I received a form letter stating that I was no longer competitive with the other agent applicants. I am a licensed attorney, professional pilot, have law enforcement experience and with top scores but I was not competitive? Obviously I had been "black balled" by the erroneous polygraph results from the FBI.
I will probably always be effected by the injustice of what happened. I wrote a final letter to Director Freeh this summer asking for another polygraph. I even offered to pay all expenses associated with retaking it if I were to fail. I guess I still haven't accepted that you can fail a polygraph while telling the truth. Or the fact that the FBI could make this kind of mistake. I had always looked up to that agency as the pinnacle of professionalism. I received the same form letter back that I had received almost two years earlier. It is a shame, since all I wanted to do was to have a chance to serve my country and make my family proud.
Sincerely,
Mark C. Doyal
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One of the Cactus 18 was recently spotted in Gibsonton FL in his petty black pickup truck. He was in a road rage incident (I know, hard to believe) with a "sexy" USAPA pilot's wife (maybe grand daughter, actually). She used her trusty iPhone to film his tailgating and the infamous one finger salute. Soon after giving the one finger salute he swerved, lost control of his vehicle, and slid into the opposite direction lanes at a cut through on a divided highway, then slid out of control backwards into an aluminum light pole, coming to rest in the grass at the far side.
Though his insurance will not pay for his vehicle repairs, he does boast that he avoided all on coming cars (while driving backwards, no less!!)... though it is uncertain if any vehicles were indeed in the lanes he illegally transited at the time....
And for those wondering... Yes, he claims he had his $675 Liberty Necktie on the seat beside him. Everyone knows you can't be expected to wear a tie with an Integrity Matters T-shirt at the same time. A tie needs a shirt with a collar. Duh.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3XqZoaWKv2k
Though his insurance will not pay for his vehicle repairs, he does boast that he avoided all on coming cars (while driving backwards, no less!!)... though it is uncertain if any vehicles were indeed in the lanes he illegally transited at the time....
And for those wondering... Yes, he claims he had his $675 Liberty Necktie on the seat beside him. Everyone knows you can't be expected to wear a tie with an Integrity Matters T-shirt at the same time. A tie needs a shirt with a collar. Duh.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3XqZoaWKv2k
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Whoever took the video was in the car solo. There was nobody in the pax seat.Phoenix said:
So, #1 - why did they operate their cell phone while driving?
#2 - Why did they stay in the 'fast' or passing lane, blocking the truck from passing? Correct procedure is to pull to the right lane so that faster traffic behind can pass.
#3 - Why didn't she just avoid the situation and pull over/stop/take a detour? Removing oneself from dicey situations often results in less harm to everyone. Best thing to do is drive to a police station or hospital emergency room entrance and ask for help.
Both parties were stupid.
One should have her cell phone taken away and given a ticket for distracted driving. The other needs anger managment, big time.
Cheers.
Mitch Vasin, integrity matters pontificated expert.
Mitch, you are the typical example of a west pilot embellishing the truth.
It was a zero neutral contract until alpa sponsored the language in the awa US Airway pilot transition agreement.
"Subject to any applicable statutory limits, employer contributions to the
Association’s applicable 401(k), or Defined Contribution Plan, will be ten percent
(10%) of the pilot’s eligible earnings as defined in the applicable plan without an
employee or employer matching contribution. Note: For America West pilots,
contributions will be effective January 1, 2006."
"Profit sharing will be paid to each pilot who was employed by US
Airways or America West during the year in which the profit was earned
based on a formula for distribution to be determined by the Association."
Do the math mitch vasin, who should not be accepted to the Arizona Bar Association due to his lack of integrity;
Attempting to shove their agenda down the throats of East pilots, alpa gave the west 10% 401 K and profit sharing they never had as a stand alone.
Gain for west pilots;
401k 10% = 15,000 per year
profit sharing for a PHX base with no profit = 5,000 (average) per year
20,000 per year for west pilots from cherry picking East pilots contract in the transition agreement.
mitch vasin was in ground school for america west when the US Airways, awa merger took place.
"Because the America West pilots made more money than the US Airways pilots, "cost-neutral" meant that the America West pilots (who were already severely underpaid) would have to take PAY CUTS to give the US Airways pilots a slight raise."
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mitch, the Arizona Bar Association will be informed.
http://leonidas.cactuspilots.us/2005_Transition_Agreement.pdf
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