2014 Pilot Discussion

[mrbreeze]

I can't think of a better anthem than Pink Floyd's, High Hopes for Usapians.

"Beyond the horizon of the place we lived when we were young
In a world of magnets and miracles
Our thoughts strayed constantly and without boundary
The ringing of the division bell had begun

Along the Long Road and on down the Causeway
Do they still meet there by the Cut

There was a ragged band that followed in our footsteps
Running before time took our dreams away
Leaving the myriad small creatures trying to tie us to the ground
To a life consumed by slow decay

The grass was greener
The light was brighter
With friends surrounded
The nights of wonder

Looking beyond the embers of bridges glowing behind us
To a glimpse of how green it was on the other side
Steps taken forwards but sleepwalking back again
Dragged by the force of some inner tide

At a higher altitude with flag unfurled
We reached the dizzy heights of that dreamed of world

Encumbered forever by desire and ambition
There's a hunger still unsatisfied
Our weary eyes still stray to the horizon
Though down this road we've been so many times

The grass was greener
The light was brighter
The taste was sweeter
The nights of wonder
With friends surrounded
The dawn mist glowing
The water flowing
The endless river

Forever and ever"

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=BGBM5vWiBLo

I'm more than happy to be a part of a ragged band following in their footsteps to ensure they have a life consumed by slow decay.

Ahh, typical addiction behavior. When all feels lost, back to the peyote. Good luck, Snap. Most of us that have fought this battle will be outta here soon. Just be safe.
breeze

 

[snapthis]

The one west idiot left. The rest are gone.

Most people are leaving the stands because the circus is leaving Charlotte.

Staying on the Pink Floyd theme..

Shine on you crazy diamond.

 

[Claxon]

Most people are leaving the stands because the circus is leaving Charlotte.
Staying on the Pink Floyd theme..
Shine on you crazy diamond.

Hole up for the final shoot out. The USAPA snipers have you triangulated.
Welcome back Breeze!

 

[snapthis]

Bet you wished you made it to this one!!!!!       

That we could agree. 😉

 

[snapthis]

Hole up for the final shoot out. The USAPA snipers have you triangulated.
Welcome back Breeze!

Are you sure they don't have their sights on you, MC?

Unpaid vacation comes to mind.

 

[snapthis]

Ahh, typical addiction behavior. When all feels lost, back to the peyote. Good luck, Snap. Most of us that have fought this battle will be outta here soon. Just be safe.
breeze

Thanks.

Welcome back, Breeze.

 

[Phoenix]

The junior Mesa scabs destroyed them. Vaselino, Koontz, Ferguson, Doyal, Anger, Auxier.
Especially McIlvenna.

 
 
Mcllvenna... there is a name that was almost forgotten.  
 
He is a lucky man and can probably walk through the airport without fear of being recognized by any of the West pilots...  unlike the ones who are making ridiculous youtube videos or are peddling $20 ties for $675 donations--the latest insult after $millions squandered. 
 
Who remembers the one who ruled before Benito Mussolini?  Its funny how some folks prefer to drift off quickly into the shadows while others take the fall in the spot light.   😀

 

[EastUS1]

Staying on the Pink Floyd theme..

Shine on you crazy diamond.

 
Sigh! Should "you'se" ever want to expand on such an admittedly "impressive" philosophical base, the following are gently suggested for consideration (although I'd personally strike Marx off that list):
 
http://philosophy.about.com/od/Major-Philosophers/    
 
P.S. I'd almost forgotten to remind all true "spartans" to buy many more $675 "Liberty" ties to go with all those waay-cool-dude "Integrity Matters" and "Dire Wolf" T-shirts, my bad:  http://www.cactuspilotcontributors.com/libertynecktie.html

 

[EastUS1]

Face it Snap, after all is said and done, you boys are literally standing there with your pants around your ankles. You and Marty. You listened to Johnny Mac, Mitch Vaselino, the amazing hucksters Ferguson and Koontz, Doyal the Liar, and idiots making movies. Anger and Auxier.
Meanwhile, you got your clocks cleaned time after time..................................................................USAPA and the east pilots dug in, and destroyed you in every encounter. One after another.
Complain all you want. This thing is ending, and you are living it. " All the risk......"

 
That's about as apt a summation as is possible in any brief presentation. 😉 First it was to be their good and true "friend Doug" that would save them, then the courts, and the last grasping at straws now comes only in the fantasy that the APA's somehow their best-friends-forever, and will naturally do their best to totally trash the east, but yet feel strangely compelled to empower and elevate the tiny west segment to unquestionable and truly "righteous" glory. One has to almost feel sorry for them nowadays...almost.  Heck...no one's even posting any "The nic is it" nonsense anymore, and it's been months since even the latest west "T minus" countdown clock was offered up to cast any shadow of imminently impending doom over the east. 🙂

 

[EastUS1]

At a higher altitude with flag unfurled
We reached the dizzy heights of that dreamed of world


I'm more than happy to be a part of a ragged band following in their footsteps to ensure they have a life consumed by slow decay.

 
Some of us actually achieved that first part snap, unlike the vast majority of "you'se" mighty, self-styled, T-shirted "spartans", and I'll cheerfully take "a life consumed by slow decay" for so long as Allmighty God blesses me to do so, be profoundly grateful for still being alive to enjoy this truly miraculous adventure, and wouldn't willingly change anything in favor of otherwise living a "life" that never really was anything truly definable as an actual Life. "You'se" can have my seat when I'm done with it, after those who've actually earned it, and only when it's finally your proper turn. 😉
 
Per your "I'm more than happy to be a part of a ragged band..." Well..."you'se" are certainly in the right place then. GO! heroic "spartans!"/"battle"-tested-"knights"/"Larry Potta wizards"/"dire wolves"/whatever...and don't forget to buy many more $675 "Designed by Army of Leonidas" ties..."soldiers"! 🙂
 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YT8H9smpK3U&list=PL5DCDEE4D2ADA2659
 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m7lgU3J5seA&list=PL21C1C7D32B996827

 

[EastUS1]

...do you think the arbitration panel is unaware of the last several years?

 
Be careful what you wish for. 😉 "You'se" had certainly best hope they would be entirely "unaware of the last several years", since a largely unprofitable and entirely stagnant little niche in PHX, without any wide bodies at all, and with first year hires upgrading to left seats out east...well....all I can say is rotsa' ruck with your revenge fantasies.

 

[Phoenix]

...do you think the arbitration panel is unaware of the last several years? ..

 

 
Be careful what you wish for. 😉 "You'se" had certainly best hope they would be entirely "unaware of the last several years", since a largely unprofitable and entirely stagnant little niche in PHX, without any wide bodies at all, and with first year hires upgrading to left seats out east...well....all I can say is rotsa' ruck with your revenge fantasies.

 
How ironic that a Westie would question someone's awareness over the last several years. 😀
 
Metro asks a very good question but once again shows a glaring propensity to implicitly assume they live in the land of milk and honey (Yeah, no milk and honey available today, but the milk man will arrive tomorrow, and the bee keeper is scheduled for Saturday--no honey, just bees).
 
Implicit assumptions cost a heap of money.   Or, in the positive spin, employ lots of lawyers and paralegals!! 
 
Let's help Metro with the arbitration panel's facts "of the last several years".....  and let's even give Metro the hypothetical implicit assumption that there will be a West Merger Committee at the table...   Now we can be sure the West Merger Committee will argue the Arbitrator MUST USE THE NIC AND NOTHING ELSE, in order to fair.  Now... the facts of the last several years... The APA will point out Judgement in favor of the Company and USAPA, who both chose not to use the Nic (for nearly a decade).  A Federal Judge found no unfairness to another method being negotiated.   Then the APA will point out the 9th and the SCOTUS found no unfairness in the company and USAPA negotiating something other than the Nic.  
 
If the arbitrators are "unaware of the last several years" then indeed the APA will make sure they are rescued from their ignorance.    

 

[EastUS1]

How ironic that a Westie would question someone's awareness over the last several years. 😀
 
Metro asks a very good question but once again shows a glaring propensity to implicitly assume they live in the land of milk and honey....
 
Implicit assumptions...

 
Indeed Brother. Once more, we must reference listings under "folks...you just can't make this kinda' stuff up". 
 
The APA will naturally do their utmost to advance the interests of their own people over all contestants, and any so foolish as to believe otherwise live their supposed "lives" entirely within the confines of Fantasyland....or is it nowadays named "sparta"/PHX? 😉 The child-like, willful idiocy of the west has now been so often evidenced that perhaps Disney should be petitioned for a name change. prechillil: "I'm sure the APA will be fair to us all." Blanche Dubois: "I have always depended on the kindness of strangers." Words pretty much fail me in even attempting to address such "thinking", and any/all suggestions to just finally grow up have proved futile.

 

[snapthis]

Indeed Brother. Once more, we must reference listings under "folks...you just can't make this kinda' stuff up". 
 
The APA will naturally do their utmost to advance the interests of their own people over all contestants, and any so foolish as to believe otherwise live their supposed "lives" entirely within the confines of Fantasyland....or is it nowadays named "sparta"/PHX? 😉 The child-like, willful idiocy of the west has now been so often evidenced that perhaps Disney should be petitioned for a name change. prechillil: "I'm sure the APA will be fair to us all." Blanche Dubois: "I have always depended on the kindness of strangers." Words pretty much fail me in even attempting to address such "thinking", and any/all suggestions to just finally grow up have proved futile.

I have a suggestion. Since you perceive yourself as the adult, improve your communication skills.

Composition 1 comes to mind.

 

[end_of_alpa]

That stuttering idiot Steve Gay was in the crew news (again) on the 15th bringing up the seniority issue (and new paint scheme) with Parker.  DP DOES NOT CARE!
 
If Steve is the BEST the WEST has to offer maybe you should appoint HIM as DDR for a PHX BPR rep and let HIM stutter his way through a BPR meeting.  That will DEFINITELY bring down the USAPA machine!!!