2014 Pilot Discussion
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nycbusdriver
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luvthe9 said:
Who, but someone who has a pathological need to constantly be the center of attention, would publish something so very personal in the newspaper?
WOW sports fans..... Just read David Braid's power point presentation to Capt. Hale and all I can say is: You want some whine with that cheese!! Can't remember the last time I saw something so devoid of any real evidence of a scheme to harm a particular group.
Hey Braid let me give you some facts.
The East had to give up 35-40 737s just to get this deal done.
Our previous CEO spent 2 billion buying back stock just to keep it propped up in case of a merger.
Your route structure was weak to start with. You are down to one hub.
Your career expectation is whatever the corporation decides to do with YOUR assets.
Separate ops was a requirement until a joint CBA was finalized. It wasn't.
How much money as a aggregate group, did you make by
1. Getting profit sharing even though the West wasn't making a profit.
2. Getting the defined contribution plus if you stopped the 401K contribution afterwards it was equal to getting another 5% raise.
How much was the East going to benefit in the merger according to NIC....don't run look it up I will tell you...a whopping 22 million ...WOW.
I could go on and on but these were just things that I could name without even thinking about it!!!
YOU ARE WHINING TO THE WRONG GROUP
and now you have embarrassed yourself in front of the AMR VP of Flying...PRICELESS
But here is the deal......and I know I am right. I don't blame the West. Not now or ever. I will lay this at the feet of NIC for all time. He screwed you by not DOING HIS JOB and coming up with an equitable solution.
THIS IS WHAT YOU DON'T GET. Had US been standing on the Court House steps, liquidation papers in hand NIC still had the duty to create A FAIR AND EQUITABLE LIST....HE DID NOT!!!
And one final thing...the Captain you cite R. Peck.... I know the guy...good man HE IS RETIRING THIS YEAR
and you are mad that you couldn't jump in front of him.
NICDOA
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Hey Braid let me give you some facts.
The East had to give up 35-40 737s just to get this deal done.
Our previous CEO spent 2 billion buying back stock just to keep it propped up in case of a merger.
Your route structure was weak to start with. You are down to one hub.
Your career expectation is whatever the corporation decides to do with YOUR assets.
Separate ops was a requirement until a joint CBA was finalized. It wasn't.
How much money as a aggregate group, did you make by
1. Getting profit sharing even though the West wasn't making a profit.
2. Getting the defined contribution plus if you stopped the 401K contribution afterwards it was equal to getting another 5% raise.
How much was the East going to benefit in the merger according to NIC....don't run look it up I will tell you...a whopping 22 million ...WOW.
I could go on and on but these were just things that I could name without even thinking about it!!!
YOU ARE WHINING TO THE WRONG GROUP
and now you have embarrassed yourself in front of the AMR VP of Flying...PRICELESS
But here is the deal......and I know I am right. I don't blame the West. Not now or ever. I will lay this at the feet of NIC for all time. He screwed you by not DOING HIS JOB and coming up with an equitable solution.
THIS IS WHAT YOU DON'T GET. Had US been standing on the Court House steps, liquidation papers in hand NIC still had the duty to create A FAIR AND EQUITABLE LIST....HE DID NOT!!!
And one final thing...the Captain you cite R. Peck.... I know the guy...good man HE IS RETIRING THIS YEAR
and you are mad that you couldn't jump in front of him.
NICDOA
NPJB
Great post. Let us not forget alpa and their pilot """""""""" neutrals"""""""""", steve gillen and jim brucia now united airlines pilots. alpa president, john prater and alpa vice president and rice committee chairman paul rice, now united airline pilots.Barrister said:
"In recognition of their efforts it was (yes, the word "was" was used) not been an easy task, I could not conclude this Opinion without thanking Captain Brucia and Captain Gillen for their immeasurable guidance and assistance."
george nicolau
Fact, united airlines was in merger talks with US Airways during the time that all the now employed by united airlines alpa pilot neutrals and alpa president and alpa vp were "assisting" in the seniority integration of US Airways and america west pilots .
alpa and united pilots, nice try. american airlines pilots, "INCOMING!"
Good spotlight on the bottom line. The whole industry wanted to see USAir go away so as to fix their problems, which wasn't gonna happen anyway. ALPA was an incestuous cesspool, not a brotherhood.Claxon said:
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one of david braid's final slide show quotes;
"The West Pilots
•Have done a fantastic job despite shrinking and watching all the growth and benefits go to the East pilots
•Been locked out and blocked from being a part of the airline
•Have played by the rules and been punished for it (Nicolau, injunction)
•Bad behavior by the East has been handsomely rewarded
•Have reached the end of our good humor and polite disposition
•Have dealt with uncertainty and disappointment for far to many years
•Going onto yet another merger with uncertainty about seniority and timeline.
•Possibly another two or three years. Waiting over a decade.
•The company has handed the East pilots evidence for seniority integration against the West
•Relied on statements and written commitments by Doug Parker CEO"
"The West Pilots
•Have done a fantastic job despite shrinking and watching all the growth and benefits go to the East pilots
•Been locked out and blocked from being a part of the airline
•Have played by the rules and been punished for it (Nicolau, injunction)
•Bad behavior by the East has been handsomely rewarded
•Have reached the end of our good humor and polite disposition
•Have dealt with uncertainty and disappointment for far to many years
•Going onto yet another merger with uncertainty about seniority and timeline.
•Possibly another two or three years. Waiting over a decade.
•The company has handed the East pilots evidence for seniority integration against the West
•Relied on statements and written commitments by Doug Parker CEO"
david braids final slide as he exited the room. (Tounge-in-cheek)
It is a west produced video though.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MDNV_71nhDk
It is a west produced video though.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MDNV_71nhDk
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chips word of the day.....poke. Like in hokey pokey.USA320Pilot said:
Claxon said:
"polite disposition"?...Seriously? Now THAT may just be the most hilarious joke they've yet attempted. Any readers without a full understanding of their "good humor and polite disposition" need only start about 1:26 into the following to get a good glimpse of the actual reality, especially concerning their "polite disposition". "You know why I hate every single one of you?"..."I hate all of you'se!" Simian gesturing graciously included at no extra charge. A finer and more exemplary group of true "ladies" and "gentlemen" would be hard to even imagine.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N66EvBBj5tQ
David Braid did not count on east pilots not surrendering their 17 yrs uninterrupted service to new hire america west pilots.
SNAPTHIS poses as a conservative, yet sanctions quotas on others. He has no issues placing never furloughed east pilots with america west pilots in basic Indoc class. Pilots with 17 yrs service.
Imagine the look on Capt. Hales' face as he views Black Top Pests being performed.
The numerous Auxier and Anger videos. The Braid " presentation" He has seen many of them.
They are a good glimpse into the world of the west pilots.
SNAPTHIS ran like the others when he heard how Capt Hale received the Braid saga.
SNAPTHIS poses as a conservative, yet sanctions quotas on others. He has no issues placing never furloughed east pilots with america west pilots in basic Indoc class. Pilots with 17 yrs service.
Imagine the look on Capt. Hales' face as he views Black Top Pests being performed.
The numerous Auxier and Anger videos. The Braid " presentation" He has seen many of them.
They are a good glimpse into the world of the west pilots.
SNAPTHIS ran like the others when he heard how Capt Hale received the Braid saga.
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EastUS1 said:
Great video! "1800 America West pilots will NEVER join USAPA." How are you feeling about that now, young lady? Care to restate in view of your dues money receipts over the past 6 years?
They simply never figured out (before flushing $millions down the crapper) that they were subject to laws, contracts and company policies like everyone else, whether or not they agree with them.
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767one said:
At the time, well known 767 Int F/O Munn enthusiastically endorsed his hair plug guru, Dr. Neil Niren. His cringe inducing praise was a precursor to his puffed up declarations that Wolf was the "real deal," Seigel was the "real deal," convicted misdemeanant Doug Parker was the "real deal," ad nauseam.
Dr. Neil Niren is a man of such high character that he later pled guilty to filing false tax returns, to the tune of a $357,000 loss to the government:
http://www.justice.gov/usao/paw/news/2013/2013_july/2013_07_19_02.html
Dr. Neil Niren is a man of such high character that he groped a female patient's exposed breasts and was caught on tape apologizing for "upsetting" her. One can't help but wonder if the beautiful, well endowed young lady was influenced in her choice of dermatologist by the ringing, no nothing endorsement of Dr. Niren in the 30 minute infomercial starring USA320Pilot. If so, it leaves one with a sick feeling.
http://triblive.com/x/pittsburghtrib/news/pittsburgh/s_466605.html#axzz32SRkqhJx
Why anyone would want to have a man of such character massaging their bald head in an examination room is beyond me.
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