2014 Pilot Discussion

[EastUS1]

And they'll use a list that has the least chance of exposing them to a lawsuit.

 
Umm...Naturally, based of course, on the proven efficacy of AOL's many triumphs in court, and especially "you'se" latest, and most devastating victory this past week...?...Seriously!? 😉 Thanks for the always-dependable chuckles from "you'se" mighty "spartans". 🙂

 

[Bill Brasky]

Because it's moot to them. The combined list will be rationed and it doesn't matter who is in what spot on our list. And they'll use a list that has the least chance of exposing them to a lawsuit.

No, it's not.  For the same reasons it's not moot to the East guys.  You have a lot to learn about airline thinking, it would appear.
 
It's my guess that the APA thinks that this is going to take a while to happen, so they are getting it going early.  After looking at an NMB website, it doesn't appear that the airline has even come close to meeting single carrier status yet, except for the common ownership.  I don't know, but I sort of doubt that the APA just sort of "jumped" to get this done today.  They've probably been working on it a while.

 

[EastUS1]

Like the fact that USAPA disappears and will have nothing to do with SLI? Answered that one in black and white. But please, continue your circle jerk with east.

 
Cite the Ruling that mandates anything of the sort...? No? Well then; continue along in "you'se" "circle jerk".

 

[EastUS1]

 
Yes, that's correct.  USAPA has slammed the west in court at every turn.  If the whack-a-doodle westicles want to spend yet more money to get slammed again, what could go wrong?  Really.

 
If the bulk of the "spartan" posters here weren't such arrogant, mindless, greedy idiots, and instead were merely foolishly delusional adolescents of proper calender years of age....I'd actually have to feel honest sympathy nowadays...especially realizing that it was just a transitional state, and that they'd someday grow up.

 

[dca319]

Yes, that's correct.  USAPA has slammed the west in court at every turn.  If the whack-a-doodle westicles want to spend yet more money to get slammed again, what could go wrong?  Really.

"Slammed"? No. Squeaked by? Yes. At what cost? Nearly a decade on LOA 93.

Congrats to us.

 

[dca319]

No, it's not.  For the same reasons it's not moot to the East guys.  You have a lot to learn about airline thinking, it would appear.
 
It's my guess that the APA thinks that this is going to take a while to happen, so they are getting it going early.  After looking at an NMB website, it doesn't appear that the airline has even come close to meeting single carrier status yet, except for the common ownership.  I don't know, but I sort of doubt that the APA just sort of "jumped" to get this done today.  They've probably been working on it a while.

Just the opposite. This SCC is going to coming flying into the hands of the APA so fast USAPA's head won't finish spinning before it realizes it's out of the whole integration process.

The company and the APA are positioning to take this process away from USAPA completely and they have a Judge's ruling to back them up.

Back to your circle jerking.

 

[EastUS1]

"Slammed"? No. Squeaked by? Yes. At what cost? Nearly a decade on LOA 93.

Congrats to us.

 
Spoke like a truly clueless little "spartan", and as for "us"?...I can't take much more in the way of laughs right now...too much lobster settling in, so I'll shortly leave "you'se" to your sad widdle westie fantasies. 🙂

 

[prechilill]

 
Yes, that's correct.  USAPA has slammed the west in court at every turn.  If the whack-a-doodle westicles want to spend yet more money to get slammed again, what could go wrong?  Really.

 
Then give us the DOH list you clowns have promised... We've been waiting five years for it.

 

[dca319]

Spoke like a truly clueless little "spartan", and as for "us"?...I can't take much more in the way of laughs right now...too much lobster settling in, so I'll leave "you'se" to your sad widdle westie fantasies. 🙂

He's still standing behind me, isn't he?

 

[EastUS1]

 
 We've been waiting five years for it.

 
Sigh!...Sounds like a personal problem to me. Why should anyone else care? 🙂 Don't "you'se" already bid your mighty PHX fortress based entirely on DOH? "You'se" mighty "spartans" are killin' me tonight. Must go for now. 🙂

 

[EastUS1]

He's still standing behind me, isn't he?

 
Pretended idiocy's often acceptably amusing. Actual idiocy's just plain sad. No matter. Carry on..."spartan"..."soldier"...and don't forget to "Click to Donate". 🙂

 

[prechilill]

 
Sigh!...Sounds like a personal problem to me. Why should anyone else care? 🙂 Don't "you'se" already bid your mighty PHX fortress based entirely on DOH? "You'se" mighty "spartans" are killin' me tonight. Must go for now. 🙂

glug glug glug...
Should be an entertaining night now that the board's resident drunk is hitting the sauce.

 

[Barrister]

Hey Res,NIC 4, Move ...lets not forget Boeing Boy wherever he is!!
 
 Could someone please check on RES Judicata  or something to that effect....I think maybe he must be drinking himself to death or swallowed a bunch of pills. 
 
Here is the deal......George Nicolau gave you something you NEVER deserved under any standard.  What could be argued was a fair method...but not a fair result.  YOU LOST because you had neither the LEGAL nor the MORAL high ground.  You don't ratio a 50 year old company with a 25 year old company with 85% of the list.  You NEVER put a new hire (some who had not even flown a revenue trip) ahead  of 17 year never furloughed guys. NEVER been done....until NIC gave it to you on a silver (no pun there) platter.  NIC said we don't have a career expectation. You kids know just how ridiculous that phrase is.  You are down to one hub.....doing 25% east flying......damn near all of the premium transom flying etc.....career expectation is a joke.  See the AMR resolution to their  merger committee. To preserve their pre-merger expectation and advancements..!!!!! now go read their letter to their own membership as to why a merger with U was such a great deal.......go read it to get my point.  They told their own membership that they would be outsourced, take 40% cuts and be the lowest paid with no pension and with a merger with a well run profitable airline like U they could avoid all of that......now they want their "Career expectation" They will probably get it being AMR and all!!!  Anyway this is over and you will adapt....this is not the end......you will learn the hard way that nothing is ever as good or bad as it initially seems. Most of us Easties will gladly leave it to you....you just gotta wait a little longer.  Good night and good bye. 
 
THE EAST ISN'T GLOATING just warmed by the notion that things are as they SHOULD BE.
 
Barrister
NIC DOA
It's Not Personal Just Business 

 

[Claxon]

Just the opposite. This SCC is going to coming flying into the hands of the APA so fast USAPA's head won't finish spinning before it realizes it's out of the whole integration process.

The company and the APA are positioning to take this process away from USAPA completely and they have a Judge's ruling to back them up.

Back to your circle jerking.

"Once there is a single carrier determination and the Union wins the election among the combined group, the pre-merger US Airways employees and pre-merger American employees will be integrated on a combined seniority list in a fair and equitable manner. Indeed, both our contract and federal law, i.e., the McCaskill-Bond Amendment of 2007, requires that seniority integration be done on a fair and equitable basis.
 
The manner in which fair and equitable seniority integration is achieved proceeds in two steps. First, the two employee groups will attempt to mutually agree on fair and equitable seniority integration. If the groups are unable to mutually agree on fair and equitable seniority integration, the issue will be submitted to an arbitrator who will decide how the employee groups will be integrated on a single seniority list."
 
USAPA and APA will agree on a list with fences.   It then becomes law. 

 

[traderjake]

USAPA and APA will agree on a list with fences.   It then becomes law. 

 
If they do it wont be a DOH or LOS list.