2014 Pilot Discussion

[MUTATIS MUTANDIS]

Not my Nic, and I agree it's DOA. If you weren't so damn stupid you'd understand that.\

REALLY? So you know me?

 

[dca319]

Well he produced, he should, another judges opinion don't mean jack sh#&!

Nothing has been produced. We still don't have our list passed. Nada. The only list the company has accepted is the Nic.

 

[dca319]

REALLY? So you know me?

That you're stupid? You just reaffirmed it with that response.

 

[MUTATIS MUTANDIS]

That you're stupid? You just reaffirmed it with that response.

Do you read? Obviously not! The MOU would be a good start, SILVER, THE 9th, ALPA in the MDA, Yeah good luck my friend contribute your future paychecks to Marty,  your a loser in that cause, but hey I aint stupid enough to do that, are you?

 

[MUTATIS MUTANDIS]

But it will be Nic-like for sure.

You need to get caught up on some ALPA reading and their merger policy!

 

[MUTATIS MUTANDIS]

Nothing has been produced. We still don't have our list passed. Nada. The only list the company has accepted is the Nic.

The company has accepted "NOTHING" unless it is "MEMORILIZED"  In a JCBA, now show me that pleez! Since I am of less intelligence than yourself! OBTW and not the LOA's voided by the current MOU!

 

[nic4us]

The company has accepted "NOTHING" unless it is "MEMORILIZED"  In a JCBA, now show me that pleez! Since I am of less intelligence than yourself! OBTW and not the LOA's voided by the current MOU!

Um...the Nic was accepted under the terms of the two JCBAs at the time, and the TA.

The company has stated numerous times under oath in court that they accepted the Nic per all contracts, and that they consider the Nic as the Status Quo at LCC.


Now for some more news you east scabs are gonna love.

Paul Jones..you know him, attorney for AWHC, the company that acquired your bankrupt airline, who then went on to be head of legal for LCC, and who is now General Counsel for AAL. Well take a close look at his letter to the NMB. It is dated 1-10-14! Last Friday , before Silver's ruling!

Yep, the company was preloaded to rid the airline of the scab union.

Here is another one for you. It has been brought to my attention that once the APA becomes certified, uscaba is no longer a party to the MOU. Just like when uscaba was certified, the West MEC was no longer a party to the TA.

 

[algflyr]

The only list the company has accepted is the Nic.

 
Interesting... I wonder why they didn't put that in the MOU?? I mean if that's the only list... Then why say "ListS"? And why set out min block hour protections for the East and the West? Do they see things separate?  And then they want the junior active pilot (for furlough protections) from the East and the West... Why both? Only one list huh?

 

[nic4us]

. Yes he is, except he's laughing at AOL and Marty and company.

Not for long!

 

[algflyr]

Um...the Nic was accepted under the terms of the two JCBAs at the time, and the TA.

The company has stated numerous times under oath in court that they accepted the Nic per all contracts, and that they consider the Nic as the Status Quo at LCC.

 
Are those documents even around anymore, or are they considered null and void? I thought I read something about that in the MOU...

 

[Bill Brasky]

Um...the Nic was accepted under the terms of the two JCBAs at the time, and the TA.

The company has stated numerous times under oath in court that they accepted the Nic per all contracts, and that they consider the Nic as the Status Quo at LCC.


Now for some more news you east scabs are gonna love.

Paul Jones..you know him, attorney for AWHC, the company that acquired your bankrupt airline, who then went on to be head of legal for LCC, and who is now General Counsel for AAL. Well take a close look at his letter to the NMB. It is dated 1-10-14! Last Friday , before Silver's ruling!

Yep, the company was preloaded to rid the airline of the scab union.

Here is another one for you. It has been brought to my attention that once the APA becomes certified, uscaba is no longer a party to the MOU. Just like when uscaba was certified, the West MEC was no longer a party to the TA.

Keep telling yourself that you're gonna get your Nic...If it makes you happy. 
 
The company told you many times what was meant by "accepting" your unuseable list, you just refuse to listen to them.
 
Yup, it's gonna be the Nic.  APA wants all you young, junior guys sucking up their upgrades for the next 25 years....NOT!
 
The only reason the company is involved is because keeping everyone fighting works for them.  If they start taking a position in the SLI, watch how quickly the lawsuits fly.

 

[nic4us]

Boy, you westies are going off the deep end, all of you have such a bad attitude. You all need to get a grip and understand it's over and has been for years, otherwise stagnate in the desert and watch the east grow!!

Watch the east grow?

You are making me laugh scab.

Oh, maybe you should take a look at the company's plan of consolidating the airline per the DOJ lawsuit.

How many DCA slot did we give up? Wasn't there something about LGA in there also?

Add on the fact that the West 190/757 IOU slots just became due, and it all adds up a coming mental breakdown for an overweight SCAB who has had his nose up the uscaba founder rears for the last 4 years.

 

[algflyr]

Paul Jones..you know him, attorney for AWHC, the company that acquired your bankrupt airline, who then went on to be head of legal for LCC, and who is now General Counsel for AAL. Well take a close look at his letter to the NMB. It is dated 1-10-14! Last Friday , before Silver's ruling!
 

 
I thought that was the company filing for single carrier status with the NMB as required... Did it say something else? I have yet to see the document... Can you post it here?

 

[Bill Brasky]

Watch the east grow?

You are making me laugh scab.

Oh, maybe you should take a look at the company's plan of consolidating the airline per the DOJ lawsuit.

How many DCA slot did we give up? Wasn't there something about LGA in there also?

Add on the fact that the West 190/757 IOU slots just became due, and it all adds up a coming mental breakdown for an overweight SCAB who has had his nose up the uscaba founder rears for the last 4 years.

What do you want to bet?  Did you even read the East bid that closes in 4 days?  Dude, get some more permatex for that gasket you're blowin'

 

[nic4us]

Keep telling yourself that you're gonna get your Nic...If it makes you happy. 
 
The company told you many times what was meant by "accepting" your unuseable list, you just refuse to listen to them.
 
Yup, it's gonna be the Nic.  APA wants all you young, junior guys sucking up their upgrades for the next 25 years....NOT!
 
The only reason the company is involved is because keeping everyone fighting works for them.  If they start taking a position in the SLI, watch how quickly the lawsuits fly.

First off, I would venture to say that at least 50% of the West is over 50 years old, so your false BS about young guys and 25 years is just that BS.

Second, I only remember once the company explaining at a crew news with Kirby what was meant by "accepting", and that was that they did indeed "accept" the list, and were waiting for a JCBA to implement it, but in the same breath he said there will never be a joint contract because he felt uscab was incapable of achieving one! Is that the time you are talking about?

Now, again in court numerous time they also said they "accepted" the list and that it was the only "status quo" list for all LCC pilots.

So, here we are, only ever had one accepted list covering all LCC pilots, that the company felt was status quo, meanwhile e scab union was never able to negotiate some other list and have it ratified in a contract. So, it is the Nic.

Peace out!