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traderjake said:
 
For Real Men of Genius like EastUS and luvthe9 probably so.
 
Competitive IQ testing with same day/same site/same time/staff/etc protections against "players" at your pleasure. How much would you care to wager "trader"? 😉 Feel free to ask Chip for his permission first, of course. 🙂 Show me what a "real man" of..umm...er..."genius" has to offer....? Who knows?...Your years of postings may merely be those of an entirely pretended, and not actual, village idiot....?
 
The likes of your support for Hummel is once again, properly noted.
 
luvthe9 said:
.... or do you want all your east coworkers to just go to the bottom?
 
Previously established by his postings of many years now....As if you had to even "ask". 😉
 
traderjake said:
For Real Men of Genius like EastUS and luvthe9 probably so.
Real Men of Genius support their fellow co workers, I will fully support our junior pilots.
 
luvthe9 said:
...I will fully support our junior pilots.
 
Always. Anyone failing therein's nothing more than contemptible scum....Period! One of, in fact the ONLY respect I've ever found reason for assigning to the west's their group unity, and while that hardly excuses any infantile exercise in wanton greed, at least that first part, the unity, is notable.
 
luvthe9 said:
And by screwing up you mean all of us maintaining our current positions, or do you want all your east coworkers to just go to the bottom?
 
I mean by insisting on a DOH/LOS  seniority stategy with APA.
 
traderjake said:
 
I mean by insisting on a DOH/LOS  seniority stategy with APA.
 
"Brilliant" point! Why EVER respect anyone else's worked years?  I say we just do it all with a combination of dice rolls, astrology, Ouija boards and Tarot cards! 🙂 After all...there'd be plentifull "Honor" in doing such...Wouldn't there?..."LT Hardy"? 😉
 
I'm sure the whole world's waiting for your "genius" suggestions on how to best proceed, so don't keep us further desparing for your "wit" and "wisdom" here....? Evidence even the the slightest semblance of a "mind" you've to call upon here and tell us all how it "should" be done....?
 
traderjake said:
I mean by insisting on a DOH/LOS  seniority stategy with APA.
Funny, all the American guys I have had on the jumpseat are OK with DOH, with C &R's and protecting their wide body flying which we have no right too. Granted these guys have all had 23 yrs and more at the company. So will you be disappointed with that if it happens? And yes the new non rev policy sux, a new hire should not be able to go ahead of some one with 40 plus yrs. (my opinion only)
 
posted on December 18, 2013 19:23

APA INFORMATION HOTLINE
This is APA Communications Committee Chairman Capt. Tom Hoban with the APA Information Hotline for Wednesday, Dec. 18.
APA BOARD OF DIRECTORS SPECIAL MEETING: The APA board of directors reconvened at 9 a.m. today at union headquarters in Fort Worth. The agenda included a discussion with APA Secretary-Treasurer FO Pam Torell and Director of Finance and Accounting Morgan Souza regarding APA's bankruptcy expense recovery. As discussed in this briefing, APA has received reimbursement from the company for bankruptcy-related expenses and has in turn compensated our legal team and financial advisers for the great majority of those expenses.
 
The board devoted a significant portion of the afternoon to an in-depth briefing by the Seniority Integration Committee in executive session. The board approved a related motion to authorize the committee to enter into protocol and seniority integration negotiations in accordance with the four-party MOU and the McCaskill Bond Act labor protective provisions. The committee is directed to seek a fair and equitable seniority integration based on the AA pilots' pre-merger career expectations that ensures equitable sharing of post-merger progression or decline.
 
traderjake said:
APA INFORMATION HOTLINE
This is APA Communications......The committee is directed to seek a fair and equitable seniority integration based on the AA pilots' pre-merger career expectations that ensures equitable sharing of post-merger progression or decline.

 
 
If you're truly unable to process any individual "thought" of your own, or otherwise pretending the part of a simple "innocent", incapable of recognizing meaningless verbage when seen...Well....Good luck to you in life. 😉
 
We're all still awaiting your own, supposed "thoughts" on how all should go here. For me, per your illogical absurdities?..."I say we just do it all with a combination of dice rolls, astrology, Ouija boards and Tarot cards! 🙂 After all...there'd be plentifull "Honor" in doing such...Wouldn't there?..."LT Hardy"?
 
Umm...No chance of you accepting the IQ testing wager, I take it? 🙂 Take a breath, a moment, seek a bit of inner peace, and imagine yourself a properly evasive little puffer fish prior to response. 😉 Puff up and TYPE! 🙂
 
No matter.  Aww..C'mon..Give it your best shot. Don't overly strain yourself, but what exactly, does the following actually mean, in context of even usage of the English language at least?.... "based on the AA pilots' pre-merger career expectations that ensures equitable sharing of post-merger progression or decline."
 
traderjake said:
posted on December 18, 2013 19:23


APA INFORMATION HOTLINE
seniority integration based on the AA pilots' pre-merger career expectations [/color]
I guess they will be looking out for themselves.
 
 
EastUS1 said:
 
We're all still awaiting your own, supposed "thoughts" on how all should go here.
 
We should go with the United Continental arbitration as our position. 
 
 
Slotting weighted 65% equipment and status, 35% LOS.
 
 
 
 
luvthe9 said:
And by screwing up you mean all of us maintaining our current positions, or do you want all your east coworkers to just go to the bottom?
This seems to be his goal.
 
traderjake said:
 

 
 
We should go with the United Continental arbitration as our position. 
 
 
Slotting weighted 65% equipment and status, 35% LOS.
 
 
 

 
 
A fair answer jake, regardless of all the mutual "nyaahs" (which we've long exchanged anyway) 😉...Now: WHY "35% LOS."? What "logic" can you/anyone advance to support that? What particular "magic" arrives at such being 35%?..Why not 36%?...37%...zero%...100%, etc? How does such, in ANY way, logically differ from my farcical notions of dice rolls, Ouiza boards, Tarot cards, etc?
 
Pilots have long-been our own worst enemies, whenever dealing with industry mangagements are concerned, and I can assure you, from earlier-learned school lessons, that playing each group against any other's taught in early Business School proceedings everywhere in the USA. That we're collectively too greedy or simply sufficiently stupid enough to fall for their chidlish BS's entirely our own fault. Well...it's always a boon for managements to have such "players" as yourself and chip along to help them as their "usefull idiots" of course. 😉
 
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