2014 Pilot Discussion

[EastUS1]

 
So... 🙂No wager acceptance then (as usual) I take it? 🙂 Sigh! Carry on then, mighty "spartan".
 
"Either way, you sure come off as a complete asshat." No worries. "You'se" mighty "spartans" come off as complete jokes.  PM in the highly unlikely event you've anything to ever offer but "tude", little princess.  Perhaps "you'se" can again sic your sister-Beechcraft-bunny on me...I can always use some more good chuckles.
 
If "you'se" are uncomfortable with presumed arrogance, and think it unfounded, then properly challenge it, or at least, even accept challenges....? 😉

"You'se" mighty "spartans" come off as nothing more than complete jokes. Umm...Shouldn't it be the proper "spartan"..umm.."warrior/soldier" way to accept even presumably arrogant and unfounded challenges? No!? Sigh! What a bunch of worthless, spineless, and completely hopeless, village idiots.  😉 How truly boring and pathetic a bunch "you'se" are. 🙂 Best put "res" and/or "snapthis" back on for some degree of "heroic" intervention here. 😉 Perhaps we can hear more "heroics" flow forth, even "cowboy" avatars/etc?...No? The whole USAPA/east-west thing's due to end, and none of "you'se" seem to have grown any semblance of a "mind" or "spine". Stop boring me. This whole scenario, like everything in life, will pass. Step up already!
 
 Sigh!...PM if interested, or just, as is the best "you'se" can apparently do...."Click to Donate". http://www.cactuspilot.com.   Sign me as completely bored with "you'se" pathetic ilk......And much, much dissapointed that "you'se" are supposedly any contemporary semblance/excuse for "Pilots", a term that used to actually mean something of signficance.
 
I'm completely bored with supposed "spartans", and have been for a goodly while. PM if any of "you'se" EVER have anything other than yet more hopelessly boring rantings to offer up. 🙂

 

[luvthe9]

APA wanted to merge with us but if they didn't were they going to disapear?
 
I think they can easily argue their stand alone career expectations vs ours'. 

So can we.

 

[EastUS1]

 
APA wanted to merge with us but if they didn't were they going to disapear?
 
I think they can easily argue their stand alone career expectations vs ours'. 

 
"I think"...? Presumption on your part, wholly unsupported by the slightest evidence. My guess is that you would (properly) imagine any passing fruitfly, or even mosquito, as having certainly more Life, or of much less concerned "career expectations" than yourself personally, will ever have...and justly so. 😉

 

[Res Judicata]

Real Men of Genius support their fellow co workers, I will fully support our junior pilots.

You support yourself.  Shocking.  You're the Junior Pilot.
 
Do they still call the 1999 Recall Accepting Chumps "new hires" like they did for years?

 

[end_of_alpa]

APA wanted to merge with us but if they didn't were they going to disapear?
 
I think they can easily argue their stand alone career expectations vs ours'. 

Sure they can "easily" argue but much harder to make it stick. Look, none of us will ever know our respective outcomes if mergers never took place. I didn't say they would disappear but US Airways, as our 10-k will soon reflect, will demonstrate that it would be more than likely AMR emerging from BK would have had an uphill battle expanding to compete rather than just adding US Airways strengths to its status and getting an automatic balance sheet bump. Business analysts and labor BOTH questioned the standalone plan and all were skeptical that "career expectations" were not very bright as a standalone for AMR. It says it all with what I just provided to you so "rewriting" history in McCaskill-Bond will be a tough sell. I provided the facts with APA history facts, not mine. Go figure.

 

[Res Judicata]

 
"Brilliant" point! Why EVER respect anyone else's worked years?  I say we just do it all with a combination of dice rolls, astrology, Ouija boards and Tarot cards! 🙂 After all...there'd be plentifull "Honor" in doing such...Wouldn't there?..."LT Hardy"? 😉
 
I'm sure the whole world's waiting for your "genius" suggestions on how to best proceed, so don't keep us further desparing for your "wit" and "wisdom" here....? Evidence even the the slightest semblance of a "mind" you've to call upon here and tell us all how it "should" be done....?

You're right. Ignore the last 5 arbitrations that disregarded Relative slotting category and class. You're right. You should go in demanding DOH. Let's not let logic get in the way of yet another emotional breakdown. Nope. Go for broke. You're "time" at a habitually failing airline is the only thing an Arbitration panel should consider. That strategy has been a smashing success...I dare you. Go into this with the same DOH entitlement that you did with the AMW merger. I pray to God you do.

 

[Res Judicata]

Just to keep this fair and balanced and with the caveat that this is not a scientific analysis - junior pilots aren't exactly crazy about DOH, because it would mean a boatload of recently furloughed AA pilots going ahead of them on the combined list.
 
 

WHOA!!!! WAIT A MINUTE!!!!
 
Are you suggesting that DOH is actually a SITUATIONAL ETHIC ?
 
Gee. How shocking. Say it Ain't so. I thought DOH was a tear jerking core value right up there with Mom, Apple Pie, and Baseball.  Only SCABS exhibit situational ethics in this business.

 

[EastUS1]

You're right. Ignore the last 5 arbitrations...I dare you. ... I pray to God you do.

 
Dare taken...ALWAYS! 🙂 PM for wager details if EVER finding "you'se" self with ANY semblance of an, if even momentarily, actual spine and supposed identity as a "Pilot". I promise to be civil, even mutally respecfull, and not laugh my arse off untill afterwards. 😉  Meanwhile:  I'll not surrender personal principles for anything, ever, period. One can't live any even half-azzed excuse for a "Life" without them. "You'se" actual mileage clearly varies. "I pray to God" actually means something to me, and I'd like to be able to answer for my use of the incredible gift of my life, when the time comes.
 
No matter. "I pray to God you do." Seriously? I'll properly leave that between "you'se" and God Allmighty, and not inject my obvious notions here. 😉
 
"You're right. Ignore the last 5 arbitrations...I dare you.." Sigh!....What would happen then?...Incoming missles?...Unexpectedly heavy triple A?..Instant contraction of some fatal disease?..A tragic car accident?/etc..?  Grow up! 🙂
 
Did I not mention that "you'se"..umm.."spartans" just plain bore me to tears? 😉

 

[Res Judicata]

Einstein said time is relative. LOS is not DOH. If an AA pilot has more real time than me than I agree with you. But if he was hired a year before me but spent 10 on furlough working elsewhere then you see where I am going.

Principles are for priests and philosophers and priests are not having a good decade. Besides, I admit to be partial to tribalism. Everyone in my clan is in my clan. I'm also unsavory and from NJ - that's three strikes.

Gee, where have we seen that scenario? So now, AA furloughees time isn't worth sh!t but East Scabs furlough time is sacred.
 
HHHAAAAA!!!!!! God Damn you As$holes are such hypocrits...

 

[luvthe9]

Gee, where have we seen that scenario? So now, AA furloughees time isn't worth sh!t but East Scabs furlough time is sacred.
 
HHHAAAAA!!!!!! God Damn you As$holes are such hypocrits...

There goes your anger issue again, calm down son.

 

[EastUS1]

There goes your anger issue again, calm down son.

 
The boy's a sadly, cross-threaded issue. The supposed, self-proclaimed product of "rather exclusive private educational institutions", but one who's tawdry "intellect" imagines that gutterall profanity's the way to go with "normal" speech....In other words?...Just some halfwit, who's parents obviously tried their best to have someone/ANYone even pretend to magically insert and inculcate a "brain" into their inadequate offspring, and who could blame them for the attempt? I honestly have some modicum of proper sympathy for him, and especially; fullest sympathy for his parents. For himself personally?...Well AWA was clearly the only operation that'd indulge any "Pilot" fantasies for him...and any overall analysis just gets far worse from there.

 

[Claxon]

 

america west pilot for seven years.

"IN THE UNITED STATES DISTRICT COURT
FOR THE DISTRICT OF ARIZONA
US Airways, Inc.,
Plaintiff,
vs.
Don Addington, et al.,
Defendants.
))))))))))
No. CV-10-01570-PHX-ROS
AMENDED JUDGMENT
(to add description of class)
 
Pursuant to the Court’s resolution of the motions for summary judgment,
 
IT IS ORDERED Counts I and III of the complaint are dismissed and judgment is
entered in favor of US Airline Pilots Association on Count II of the complaint. US Airline
Pilots Association’s seniority proposal does not breach its duty of fair representation
provided it is supported by a legitimate union purpose. This judgment is binding on the
following class: “All pilots employed by US Airways in September 2008 who were on the
America West seniority list on September 20, 2005.”
 
DATED this 4th day of December, 2012.
 
Judge Silver"

 

[Claxon]

At 59 seconds in to the video jeff koontz said the AAA, awa seniority is arbitration that was "part of federal law".  Seven years ago and you went from beeper to cell phone on reserve in phx (maybe las).   You met your enemy and it is yourselves west pilots. 
 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8V0oGznLDKI&;feature=youtu.be

 

[luvthe9]

At 59 seconds in to the video jeff koontz said the AAA, awa seniority is arbitration that was "part of federal law".  Seven years ago and you went from beeper to cell phone on reserve in phx.   You met your enemy and it is yourselves west pilots. 
 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8V0oGznLDKI&;feature=youtu.be

How true, the west pilots have given so much up, upgrades, wide bodies, and all the wasted money, I guess they enjoy stagnation,what ashame. Poor Res, about to a have goat worthy meltdown.

 

[EastUS1]

Gee, where have we seen that scenario? So now, AA furloughees time isn't worth sh!t but East Scabs furlough time is sacred.
 
HHHAAAAA!!!!!! God Damn you As$holes are such hypocrits...

 
Umm..Did "you'se" "HHHAAAAA!!!!!! God Damn you As$holes" parents of yours ever properly ask for their money back from all those "rather exclusive private educational institutions" they obviously and completely, just wasted their money on with "you'se"?...They certainly SHOULD have.....I'm just curious here...? One can only imagine the table-talk: "Our son's a distressed and troubled idiot, but we love him. We'll send him to even "Flight School" and buy his tickets/fantasies as best we can. WOW!...We did good...He's not even in jail or a mental institution...yet, and he actually found employment!...Even as a supposed "Pilot"! Who would've ever thought it!? YEA!!!....No matter if even at the lowest-rent, most disgusting excuse for an "airline" anywhere!...Praise be to God!"...At least the little creep's finally outta' the house".....
 
PM for wager details Res, should you ever "grow a pair", but "you'se" already know you've nothing that it takes to even pretend to actually FLY...supposed "Pilot".  🙂 Wholesale pretension's one thing. "You'se" are on the same level as some teenager that's just passed her driving test, and instantly imagines herself capable of winning the Indy/formula one/etc..."Pilot".  🙂