2014 Pilot Discussion

[prechilill]

Silver is a genius. She dances around making any ruling that might come back to haunt a REAL union with a REAL LUP because of the Fake unions perversion of the Law and yet hands APA the scalpel to surgically REMOVE the cancer of USTUPID to entirely wipe them off the planet in short order. Do the scab cowards appeal? Do they REALLY want the ninth to real what scumbags they've been? Does Scumanski want to address her pointed observations of ethics violations to the 9th? Another brilliant move by Silver to ensure the 9th sees how badly they OVER estimated the Scab Eastholes capacity for Ethical behavior.
Our new Union put out a rather clear indication of how they plan on regarding USCABA....The Former Bargaining Agent. They won't. At all. In any way, shape, or form. There can be only ONE CBA.
Checkmate Asssholes.

WORD

 

[prechilill]

Sandwiched in between 1985 hires... Both pretty old too!

Massive upward movement- ZOOM!

 

[Claxon]

Nice story, I love fiction. 
How's this:  USAPA is gone before seniority is even looked at.  The APA is going to manage this integration, just like FUKU was trying to do with east and west.  But, your clock ran out because, well, you only had almost six years to pass that DoH list which never saw the light of day.  Hmmmm.  Welp, that's yesterday's news, just like Bradford and his bunch.  
We at least have a lot to look forward to, and I am sure the APA will be fair to us all.  They do have a tendency to not regurgitate already settled labor agreements (like, say, TWA/AA and probably AWA/U).  It's better that way- following the rules and all.  That's probably foreign to a lot of you, as Judge Silver identified in her latest opinion.  
Remember, be a good union pilot!
 


 
Oh, and "Wide range of reasonableness"

Nice story, I love fiction. 
How's this:  USAPA is gone before seniority is even looked at.  The APA is going to manage this integration, just like FUKU was trying to do with east and west.  But, your clock ran out because, well, you only had almost six years to pass that DoH list which never saw the light of day.  Hmmmm.  Welp, that's yesterday's news, just like Bradford and his bunch.  
We at least have a lot to look forward to, and I am sure the APA will be fair to us all.  They do have a tendency to not regurgitate already settled labor agreements (like, say, TWA/AA and probably AWA/U).  It's better that way- following the rules and all.  That's probably foreign to a lot of you, as Judge Silver identified in her latest opinion.  
Remember, be a good union pilot!
 
 
Oh, and "Wide range of reasonableness"

The Silver flash bang knocked most Westoffs out for days. Here they come again, another loss notched in their belts courtesy of Ferguson.
Imagine Prechillil locked off AA big stuff now that the 330 is too. Maybe the AA guys will let her sniff their 777 seats for the next 15 yrs.

 

[Keroseneuser]

LOL!!!   You gotta stop,  I cannot stop laughing.     "Zoom!"   
 
Oh man this board is entertaining.  but got to log out and get some sleep.........Off to bed I go........ZOOM!!       LOL.

 

[Claxon]

Sandwiched in between 1985 hires... Both pretty old too!
Massive upward movement- ZOOM!

The only upward movement you will encounter is your head after a nice sniff.

 

[Claxon]

Silver is a genius. She dances around making any ruling that might come back to haunt a REAL union with a REAL LUP because of the Fake unions perversion of the Law and yet hands APA the scalpel to surgically REMOVE the cancer of USTUPID to entirely wipe them off the planet in short order. Do the scab cowards appeal? Do they REALLY want the ninth to real what scumbags they've been? Does Scumanski want to address her pointed observations of ethics violations to the 9th? Another brilliant move by Silver to ensure the 9th sees how badly they OVER estimated the Scab Eastholes capacity for Ethical behavior.
Our new Union put out a rather clear indication of how they plan on regarding USCABA....The Former Bargaining Agent. They won't. At all. In any way, shape, or form. There can be only ONE CBA.
Checkmate Asssholes.

WORD

Here comes Res Judicata back from getting up off the floor. Again.
USAPA and Bradford own you.

 

[Claxon]

Sandwiched in between 1985 hires... Both pretty old too!
Massive upward movement- ZOOM!

The AA guys despise you too. Just like the rest of the industry.

 

[Claxon]

While I too am still sometimes amazed, well "Holy crap Prechilli, you cannot possibly be that dense" flies in the face of years of empirical evidence to the contrary.

Yes, she honestly is. Ask her about that countdown clock that doubles down as Steelydan.

 

[Res Judicata]

Here comes Res Judicata back from getting up off the floor. Again.
USAPA and Bradford own you.

What's USAPA? Who's Bradford?

 

[Claxon]

Silver is a genius. She dances around making any ruling that might come back to haunt a REAL union with a REAL LUP because of the Fake unions perversion of the Law and yet hands APA the scalpel to surgically REMOVE the cancer of USTUPID to entirely wipe them off the planet in short order. Do the scab cowards appeal? Do they REALLY want the ninth to real what scumbags they've been? Does Scumanski want to address her pointed observations of ethics violations to the 9th? Another brilliant move by Silver to ensure the 9th sees how badly they OVER estimated the Scab Eastholes capacity for Ethical behavior.
Our new Union put out a rather clear indication of how they plan on regarding USCABA....The Former Bargaining Agent. They won't. At all. In any way, shape, or form. There can be only ONE CBA.
Checkmate Asssholes.

Proving every day that the FBI got their boy.
Wake and Silver got served by USAPA

 

[Claxon]

What's USAPA? Who's Bradford?

Bradford. The guy everyone east maintained to hold your leash.

 

[nic4us]

Holy crap Prechilli, you cannot possibly be that dense.      If what you want to happen actually does happen APA is going to chew you up and spit you out.     You might want to look into the history books a bit,  Start with Reno Air and TWA and work your way back.

I think it is you who are that dense.

What the APA is doing is putting pressure on the scabs to cut a deal while they can, of course that deal is going to look just like the TWA deal. Question is will there be enough CLT, PHL protection (think STL) for the scabs to buy off on it?

The only way we get a fair integration is to force arbitration...end of story.

As far as the MB process goes, something east posters keep missing is just because the arbitration is mandated by federal law does not make it any more or less binding than the Nic. It will not be incontestable, and if the integration fails to use a prior arbitrated award that nobody ever ceded their rights to...well...it will be contested and tossed!

Think about it...the east's position at this point is either cut a deal with the APA seeking base protections, or force arbitration, where the Nic will get used.

Like I been telling you all along...you are gonna be lucky to get the Nic!

 

[prechilill]

What's USAPA? Who's Bradford?

S
He owns a van. Kind of a clunker because of his LoA93 dollars. But it runs- or used to, at least. Don't know for how much longer. Three months?

 

[EastUS1]

As far as the MB process goes, something east posters keep missing is just because the arbitration is mandated by federal law does not make it any more or less binding than the Nic. It will not be incontestable, and if the integration fails to use a prior arbitrated award that nobody ever ceded their rights to...well...it will be contested and tossed!
 

 
So now....umm...a previous association's internal union process, that's been found unenforceable, takes precedence over federal law?..And by implication; if the nic's not used in any possible, future arbitration under MB; the mighty "army" will successfully sue to have it enforced anyway...?...And naturally; with far more success than you've yet managed!?  Uh..Huh...I see. Whew! "You'se" guys are killin' us tonight. 😉  I must bail before otherwise just laughing myself outta' my chair. 🙂
 
No hard feelings nic4us. Prechilled still gets uncontestable First Prize for possibly the best joke EVER posted here: "...and I am sure the APA will be fair to us all." 🙂

 

[nic4us]

What's USAPA??

http://usapa.org/