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luvthe9 said:
I can't agree with that. I feel sorry for the poor guy, and none of this is worth hating anyone over anyway. Life's just far too short for that, and look at all the good laughs we've gotten over the years from the west and their supporters anyway....Just sayin'. 😉 Just try to imagine going through life with trader's perspective. That'd be self-punishment of an order I don't wish to even imagine. No matter really. This place is purely about opinions, venting, and chuckles, not necessarily in any particular order.
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I'm going to have to agree with Res on this one. You can't get much more hypocritical than that post. It's not fair for the APA to run the show for the integration, but it's OK for the east to decide the west/east integration? Oy vey!Res Judicata said:
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Agreed.EastUS1 said:
It's too bad it's turned into east vs east/west/APA/management. Wouldn't it be nice if it was just USAPA (east/west) vs the APA. Oh well.
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Yeah. It sure would be much better, but impossible to achieve. It's an incumbent curse on our species that we often wallow in far too much "ME", and lose all perspective of the larger world around us. If all were ever able to drop back even a notch from such excessive self involvement, well, we'd live in an entirely different and far better world, but that's not our nature.
Whatever else is true of the nic; it handed manipulative management the finest tool imaginable.
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Well, if not happy with "you're a westie"; "you'se" can always just settle for being an arrogant buffoon who's clearly suffering from grandiose delusions of self worth and importance instead. Whichever best floats your boat, I suppose. Your choice. 😉
A$$HOLE here it is 517 DOH right on the top, AWE their respective DOH, the rest of the USAIR list spread out with a 2 month west guy ahead of a 15 y put ahead of a 15+ plus year never furloughed pilot! http://leonidas.cactuspilots.us/attachments/article/76/Nicolau_Award_Seniority_List.pdftraderjake said:
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You really need to read the explanation of the award someday.
It was not constructed the way you claim.
It was not constructed the way you claim.
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And that arbitrator was using a 2 year old seniority list that bore no resemblance whatsoever to the positions held by the time he put out his award. It was fair enough for you, of that I am sure. 1800 East pilot stapled to the bottom...15+ year East pilots behind West newhires...what's not to like, huh?Res Judicata said:
I also disagree with the inference that we will be unhappy with a new arbitration. All you have is a list that was never used and never could be. What you have in reality is your current list, and we have ours and APA has theirs. What you will see, IMO, is the first West pilot slotted in with other 757 pilots behind the widebody pilots. Your list has no widebody pilots on it. Where the arbitrators go from there is fine by me.
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Dupe...Res Judicata said:
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But that is the way it turned out Bean. It's probably going to end up a do over using three lists IMO. The NIC is as big a pipe dream as DOH.Beancounter said:
Oh yes it was!traderjake said:
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