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AAUS Airways Merger Accomplished,
Now on to Seniority Integration
By First Officer Tim Daudelin, Seniority Integration Committee Member


With the merger between American Airlines and US Airways now accomplished, the time seems right for a brief review of the McCaskillBond legislation relating to the integration of  the work groups at the two carriers.The statute originated after American acquired TWA in 2001. Missouri Sens. Claire McCaskill and Kit Bond, who were unhappy with the way AMR integrated TWA workers, introduced an amendment to an omnibus spending bill to guarantee certain labor protective provisions (LPPs) for covered airline transactions. The statute defined a covered event as the combination of multiple carriers that involves the transfer of 50 percent or more of an air carriers assets or equity and would require a "fair and equitable" integration of seniority lists for the employees of crafts or classes that are subject to the Railway Labor Act (RLA). President George W. Bush signed the bill into law in 2007. The McCaskill-Bond statute did not create a new law but rather utilized two sections 3 and 13 of the LPPs imposed by the CivilAeronautics Board in the Allegheny-Mohawk merger of 1971. Essentially, the new statute requires that the carrier make provisions for integration of the seniority lists, but not necessarily the labor agreements, in a "fair and equitable manner," including negotiation with the union and employee representatives and binding arbitration as necessary. The parties to these negotiations are the employee groups or unions of the companies and the carrier or carriers involved in thetransaction, and the statute establishes that the carrier bears the responsibility to provide the fair and equitable process. The parties canaccept a voluntarily negotiated integrated seniority list (ISL) as outlined in Section 3 of the LPPs, or else, to the extent the unions or employee groups fail to present such a voluntary list, it is the carriers duty to engage in arbitration with those groups as outlined in Section 13 of the LPPs.In the case of a covered transaction that involves parties represented by the same union, the internal merger policy of the union must be used, and the carrier will have no input in the process, except to decide whether it will accept and implement the ISL. This was the case in both the Delta Northwest and UnitedContinental mergers, as both pilot groups in these mergers were members of ALPA, so the internal ALPA merger policy was applied. The merger of US Airways and America West took place before the enactment of McCaskill-Bond, so it could not have been applied, but evenif it had occurred after the effective date, ALPA represented both carriers, so its merger policy would have taken precedence. The merger of Southwest and Air Tran fell under McCaskill-Bond because it met the requirements for the asset and equity transfer and involved the merger of operations and the combination of workers of crafts or classes covered by the RLA. The arbitration of provision of the statute was never
triggered, though, because the pilot unions reached a voluntary agreement without having to invoke the Section 13 arbitration aspect.

ALPA Merger Policy vs. McCaskill-Bond
As stated in the article above, the recent UALCAL merger and ISL
development process were governed by the ALPA merger policy
because ALPA represented both carriers pilots. In April 2009, ALPA
revised its merger policy by replacing the "five goals" that required
negotiators, mediators and arbitrators to weigh in integrating seniority
lists with three specific factors that must be considered: longevity, status
and category, and career expectations. Negotiators, mediators and
arbitrators are free to take into account other elements, and the weight
placed on each of the elements is at their discretion, but the three core
factors must be considered. It is important to note that the ALPA
merger policy is separate from the McCaskill-Bond requirements,
which place no requirement on parties who are not represented by
ALPA to adhere to these criteria. While parties involved in a McCaskillBond
covered transaction merger, such as AAUS, are free to adopt
any of these elements when developing an ISL that meets the "fair and
equitable" standard, they are under no obligation to do so.
There is also a provision in the statute, Section 13b, that allows the merging labor groups and the carrier to establish, by mutual agreement, alternative arbitration and dispute resolution processes from those detailed in Section 13a of the statute. When APA negotiated the MOU with USAPA and the company, consistent with this part of the statute, the AAUS Airways Merger Accomplished (continued from page 7)parties established an alternative process and conditions for the ISL development. Paragraph 10 of the MOU details the timetable for the negotiations and, if necessary, arbitration for our seniority integration process and establishes the makeup of
the panel of arbitrators and the criteria they will use in any ISL arbitration proceeding.

The overriding standard that must be followed throughout both phases negotiation and arbitration, and ultimately in the
ISL is that of "fair and equitable." Neither McCaskill-Bond nor the original Allegheny-Mohawk LPPs actually define this term,
so we are required to look to prior seniority integrations to understand what other groups and arbitrators have used, while
acknowledging that each integration is different. Pre-merger career expectations, fleets, networks, pilot demographics and
longevity are just a few of the aspects that have been considered when defining this term. These facets, along with others that
are appropriate to the pilot groups in the American merger, will be explored in crafting the criteria that are most appropriate
to integrating the pilot groups, with the ultimate goal of achieving an ISL that meets the standard of "fair and equitable."
So? What he says at the end is the most telling: APA will follow M-B even though we wish to exclude the ONLY party eligible to negotiate the SLI. Well see about that in Federal Court.
 
snapthis said:
The "Come As You Are" Governance Project
First Officer Neil Roghair, APA Vice President
While we dont know the date when the National Mediation Board will make a determination on our single-carrier filing, we expect it to occur within the next several months, and there is always the possibility it will occur sooner rather than later. With this in mind, some of us have been working on the "come as you are" governance project in the likely event that at some point soon, the pilots from the former US Airways will become part of APA and fall under our Constitution and Bylaws. I want to tell you what to expect when this happens.
 
We will continue the membership drive we started earlier this year. This drive focuses on both new hires and US Airways pilots. To make it easier for both groups, we will continue to use the electronic membership application that our IT department and APA Membership Committee created along with the USAPA Membership Committee.To date, we have received more than 500 applications from US Airways pilots. Members will vote on membership applications at existing APA domiciles, until domiciles are established at the new bases. A minimum of 100 APA members in good standing must exist at a domicile in order to qualify for two domicile representatives. The APA Policy Manual will be updated to put US Airways domiciles into the APA election cycle. DCA is unique as it is an existing APA domicile, so because we just held a DCA domicile election, that base will not have another election until the May 1, 2016, term. Upon single-carrier determination, our current DCA domicile representatives will begin representing the former US Airways pilots as soon as they are voted in as members. CLT, PHX and PHL will be placed in our existing C&B election categories (A, B, C or D), each of which has specific terms of office for chairman and vice chairman. The APA president will initially appoint two interim representatives at each domicile until elections for chairman and vice chairman can be held. If fewer than six months remain in the applicable term of office, the elections will be held at a domicile meeting. If more than six months remain, elections will be conducted through the BallotPoint election system used for regularly scheduled elections. In both cases, the elected representatives will serve the remainder of the unfinished term of office.
For example, if the current terms of office for Category A domiciles expire Oct. 31, 2014, and CLT is established as a domicile July 1, 2015, and placed in Category A, the elections for chairman and vice chairman would take place at a domicile meeting because fewer than six months remain in the terms of office. By contrast, if PHX and PHL are placed in Category D, the terms of which do not expire until Oct. 31, 2015, the elections for chairman and vice chairman would take place through the BallotPoint election system because more than six months are left in the terms of office. Once new representatives are added, the APA board of directors will grow from 16 members to 22. The key administrative step will be processing membership applications and voting on them at our domicile meetings. We are working to get a head start on that process.
The APA membership application can be accessed via a link on the right side of the APA public home page or directly at mbrapp.alliedpilots.org. Feel free to share the link with pilots you know at US Airways and encourage them to get started on the process so they can participate in APA elections and benefits as soon as possible after the single-carrier filing. Our staff and pilot volunteers are working diligently to prepare to support all members of what will soon become the worlds largest independent pilot union.
The interesting part of all this is the misconception the APA can skirt the MB process. As if there is a "race" to SC status that makes the provisions of MB moot. Nothing could be farther than the truth. It very well might go to arbitration if the APA so wishes. There will be an opposing "side" representing the USAirways Pilots in any event this goes to arbitration. It will be USAPA.
The only way to not employ the provisions of MB is to do what AirTran did in their merger with SWA, and that is agree to terms and not arbitrate.
Fortunately USAPA has the foremost authority on MB, that being William Wilder. An extremely smart move.
 
end_of_alpa said:
So? What he says at the end is the most telling: APA will follow M-B even though we wish to exclude the ONLY party eligible to negotiate the SLI. Well see about that in Federal Court.
So far the APA has been off the mark on this issue. Their misinformed position and siding with the former LCC legal team was a huge mistake, and revealing. It was very evident they are far behind Wilder. Wilder should have been in the Silver courtroom to set her straight. She has revealed her ignorance of RLA law, and only until her final ruling did she come back to her senses. Obviously someone gave her a heads up, as she was going to the 9th the way she was looking to rule. The APA is right where Silver was, believing Siegel. Who was totally wrong.
Personally, I am hoping the APA does go to arbitration. It could be the mistake of their careers.
 
snapthis said:
AAUS Airways Merger Accomplished,
Now on to Seniority Integration
By First Officer Tim Daudelin, Seniority Integration Committee Member

With the merger between American Airlines and US Airways now accomplished, the time seems right for a brief review of the McCaskillBond legislation relating to the integration of  the work groups at the two carriers.The statute originated after American acquired TWA in 2001. Missouri Sens. Claire McCaskill and Kit Bond, who were unhappy with the way AMR integrated TWA workers, introduced an amendment to an omnibus spending bill to guarantee certain labor protective provisions (LPPs) for covered airline transactions. The statute defined a covered event as the combination of multiple carriers that involves the transfer of 50 percent or more of an air carriers assets or equity and would require a "fair and equitable" integration of seniority lists for the employees of crafts or classes that are subject to the Railway Labor Act (RLA). President George W. Bush signed the bill into law in 2007. The McCaskill-Bond statute did not create a new law but rather utilized two sections 3 and 13 of the LPPs imposed by the CivilAeronautics Board in the Allegheny-Mohawk merger of 1971. Essentially, the new statute requires that the carrier make provisions for integration of the seniority lists, but not necessarily the labor agreements, in a "fair and equitable manner," including negotiation with the union and employee representatives and binding arbitration as necessary. The parties to these negotiations are the employee groups or unions of the companies and the carrier or carriers involved in thetransaction, and the statute establishes that the carrier bears the responsibility to provide the fair and equitable process. The parties canaccept a voluntarily negotiated integrated seniority list (ISL) as outlined in Section 3 of the LPPs, or else, to the extent the unions or employee groups fail to present such a voluntary list, it is the carriers duty to engage in arbitration with those groups as outlined in Section 13 of the LPPs.In the case of a covered transaction that involves parties represented by the same union, the internal merger policy of the union must be used, and the carrier will have no input in the process, except to decide whether it will accept and implement the ISL. This was the case in both the Delta Northwest and UnitedContinental mergers, as both pilot groups in these mergers were members of ALPA, so the internal ALPA merger policy was applied. The merger of US Airways and America West took place before the enactment of McCaskill-Bond, so it could not have been applied, but evenif it had occurred after the effective date, ALPA represented both carriers, so its merger policy would have taken precedence. The merger of Southwest and Air Tran fell under McCaskill-Bond because it met the requirements for the asset and equity transfer and involved the merger of operations and the combination of workers of crafts or classes covered by the RLA. The arbitration of provision of the statute was never
triggered, though, because the pilot unions reached a voluntary agreement without having to invoke the Section 13 arbitration aspect.
 
ALPA Merger Policy vs. McCaskill-Bond
As stated in the article above, the recent UALCAL merger and ISL
development process were governed by the ALPA merger policy
because ALPA represented both carriers pilots. In April 2009, ALPA
revised its merger policy by replacing the "five goals" that required
negotiators, mediators and arbitrators to weigh in integrating seniority
lists with three specific factors that must be considered: longevity, status
and category, and career expectations. Negotiators, mediators and
arbitrators are free to take into account other elements, and the weight
placed on each of the elements is at their discretion, but the three core
factors must be considered. It is important to note that the ALPA
merger policy is separate from the McCaskill-Bond requirements,
which place no requirement on parties who are not represented by
ALPA to adhere to these criteria. While parties involved in a McCaskillBond
covered transaction merger, such as AAUS, are free to adopt
any of these elements when developing an ISL that meets the "fair and
equitable" standard, they are under no obligation to do so.
There is also a provision in the statute, Section 13b, that allows the merging labor groups and the carrier to establish, by mutual agreement, alternative arbitration and dispute resolution processes from those detailed in Section 13a of the statute. When APA negotiated the MOU with USAPA and the company, consistent with this part of the statute, the AAUS Airways Merger Accomplished (continued from page 7)parties established an alternative process and conditions for the ISL development. Paragraph 10 of the MOU details the timetable for the negotiations and, if necessary, arbitration for our seniority integration process and establishes the makeup of
the panel of arbitrators and the criteria they will use in any ISL arbitration proceeding.
The overriding standard that must be followed throughout both phases negotiation and arbitration, and ultimately in the
ISL is that of "fair and equitable." Neither McCaskill-Bond nor the original Allegheny-Mohawk LPPs actually define this term,
so we are required to look to prior seniority integrations to understand what other groups and arbitrators have used, while
acknowledging that each integration is different. Pre-merger career expectations, fleets, networks, pilot demographics and
longevity are just a few of the aspects that have been considered when defining this term. These facets, along with others that
are appropriate to the pilot groups in the American merger, will be explored in crafting the criteria that are most appropriate
to integrating the pilot groups, with the ultimate goal of achieving an ISL that meets the standard of "fair and equitable."
This is a very factual account of the process.
 
Members will vote on membership applications at existing APA domiciles,


Striking fear into hundreds of West serial non-union applicants.
 
The nicolau award, with alpa pilot """neutrals""" assistance, attempted to put half wingers mitch vasalino, fergie, ashfrin imagoingtobepoor and many others above US Airways pilots with years of experience and dues paying to alpa, "you taught them (the west new hires) well"........
 
You East pilots sent the alpa hypocrites packing.
 
 
"ual alpa update, April 11, 2014
 
The ALPA Half-Wing: What Does It Mean?
 


[SIZE=medium]There has long been a tradition at United of wearing the ALPA pin on your tie as a sign of solidarity with your ALPA brothers and sisters. Through good times and bad, when emotions ran high, the pin always said, “I’ve got your back. It’s us pilots together against those who would see us apart.” Another important aspect of this tradition is the ALPA Half Wing.

When you see fellow pilots with ALPA half wings on their ties, you are seeing the next generation of ALPA pilots at United Airlines. For the first year of membership, the half wing symbolizes their apprenticeship. This is the time when a new hire is not only learning the intricacies of airline piloting, but also the benefits and responsibilities of belonging to the country’s largest pilot labor union. For the experienced pilots and unionists, it is our role to mentor these new members.

ALPA publishes plenty of information for new members to read, but nothing can replace the real world experience a seasoned veteran can pass down over refreshments on a layover. The inside knowledge and perspective of how ALPA works for its members and how to get the most out of your membership can only come from fellow ALPA pilots.

So when you see a “half-winger” on your flight, invite them out and treat them to dinner or refreshments on your layover. Encourage them to get involved in their union. Ask if they are receiving their LEC and MEC communications. Make sure they have the numbers for their local reps and the ALPA APP stored in their phones. Make sure they know how to file a PDR. Ask if they are attending local Council meetings or if they want to get involved in local committee work. This is the best way for them to get to know ALPA as a new hire. Go over how to file a PDR; make sure they have the Contract Legality Guide. Do they know which parts of the contract require pilot concurrence to waive? Teach them the importance of knowing and defending their contract.
[/SIZE]
 
[SIZE=12pt]At the April 9 ALPA briefing for United new hire and returning pilots, 100% of them recognized the battle our industry is in and 100% of them signed up for ALPA-PAC.[/SIZE]

[SIZE=medium]All of these things are important for an apprentice ALPA member to know. Our job is to help them learn. Today’s apprentice “half-wingers” will become tomorrow’s ALPA leaders. Teach them well."[/SIZE]
 
By First Officer Pam Torell, APA Secretary-Treasurer
For the majority of you who have been busy flying the line, it’s been an eventful first quarter for your union. While there has been much focus and preparation regarding the upcoming JCBA and seniority integration talks, we’ve also been planning for the National Mediation Board’s declaration of single-carrier status and the eventual assimilation of 4,000 US Airways pilots into the APA structure. I want to highlight some important internal events that have happened since my last column.


• By now, most of you are aware that we have reverted to 1 percent dues as of Jan. 1, 2014, which is welcome news for all of us.

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Paying less to get actual union representation is going to be a welcome change.
 
GorgeousGeorge said:
http://jamhoff.com/PDFs/ArbitratorDecisionAward.pdf

At the same time Nicalou issued his award, Arbitrator Bloch in the matter of the dispatcher integration issued an award that denutted the financial analysis you cited by parroting Nicalou and the AWA pilots. In fact in his view the financial picture of the East side of the operation was much stronger and had much more to offer.
 
A very interesting read indeed. I doubt any West pilot would agree with anything the Arbitrator said though...
 
Beancounter said:
I agree with some of what you wrote, but I think you gloss over the fact that without the merger there would have been no US Airways. 
 
Bean
Without the merger their would be no AWA, Project Zanzibar, plus you brought nothing to this merge.
 
snapthis said:
AAUS Airways Merger Accomplished,
Now on to Seniority Integration
By First Officer Tim Daudelin, Seniority Integration Committee Member

...
 
Essentially, the new statute requires that the carrier make provisions for integration of the seniority lists, but not necessarily the labor agreements, in a "fair and equitable manner," including negotiation with the union and employee representatives and binding arbitration as necessary. The parties to these negotiations are the employee groups or unions of the companies and the carrier or carriers involved in the transaction, and the statute establishes that the carrier bears the responsibility to provide the fair and equitable process. 
 
Interesting the APA Seniority Integration member that wrote this freely admits the parties to these negotiations are the Unions (There's that "s" again... ) involved in the transaction. To me that reads the APA and USAPA..
 
I read most of that magazine last night Snap. It would be good if we could get some more inside information on what the APA members are saying to each other. This is about as inside as we can expect for now... 🙂
 
Here is a link to the magazine Snap has been quoting from. A good read...
 
https://public.alliedpilots.org/APA/LinkClick.aspx?fileticket=9Hb1EL9lhrE%3d&tabid=292&mid=3154
 
algflyr said:
 
Interesting the APA Seniority Integration member that wrote this freely admits the parties to these negotiations are the Unions (There's that "s" again... ) involved in the transaction. To me that reads the APA and USAPA..
 
I read most of that magazine last night Snap. It would be good if we could get some more inside information on what the APA members are saying to each other. This is about as inside as we can expect for now... 🙂
 
Here is a link to the magazine Snap has been quoting from. A good read...
 
https://public.alliedpilots.org/APA/LinkClick.aspx?fileticket=9Hb1EL9lhrE%3d&tabid=292&mid=3154
 
I guess the link did not copy correctly from the first article. You're right, a good read.
 
snapthis said:
By First Officer Pam Torell, APA Secretary-Treasurer
For the majority of you who have been busy flying the line, it’s been an eventful first quarter for your union. While there has been much focus and preparation regarding the upcoming JCBA and seniority integration talks, we’ve also been planning for the National Mediation Board’s declaration of single-carrier status and the eventual assimilation of 4,000 US Airways pilots into the APA structure. I want to highlight some important internal events that have happened since my last column.


• By now, most of you are aware that we have reverted to 1 percent dues as of Jan. 1, 2014, which is welcome news for all of us.

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Paying less to get actual union representation is going to be a welcome change.
Air Cal, Reno, TWA all ended up in the 1 percent of the posterior of the american airlines seniority list.
 
"Paying less to get actual union representation is going to be a welcome change."
 
spinthis
 
What actual union representation have you received from the apa union thus far?  apa requested that you give away your  McCaskill-Bond  protection. 
 
You spent 675 dollars for a tie and thousands of dollars in aol contributions, now with 3/4 quarters of a percent dues savings on the horizon you are ecstatic.  "Penny wise pound foolish".
 
kevin horner, america west pilot, has been attempting to sue for dfr apa, alpa and usapa unions for years. 
 
kev, you want your date of hire from your twa pilot position to be used at american airlines, but you want to use your nic lottery ticket from your america west pilot position to be used at US Airways?  You are a burro sir.
 
 
"We hold that the draconian seniority positions dictated to us by American Airlines and the Allied Pilots Association (APA) are a direct result of ALPA’s breach. Should American Airlines seek to modify or delete Supplement CC, our assigned seniority must be replaced by our original Date of Hire (DOH) with TWA."
 
http://www.aicapilot.org/
 
http://www.linkedin.com/pub/kevin-horner/38/5a3/57b
 
http://www.aicapilot.org/news/Press%20counter%20to%20APA%20motion%20to%20dismiss.pdf
 
http://leonidas.cactuspilots.us/About_US.pdf
 
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