737 winglets

[IORFA]

Since AA decided to order the winglets for the 737, is there a dock plan or schedule to get these done yet? Plus, how are the 757's coming? How many done etc.

 

[lpbrian]

About 5 of 20 are done. As for the 73's it will be a while before the first shipsets arrive. Some are set up to readily accomadate winglets while most others will require structural work. My guess is that line stations may outfit the former while Tulsa will handle the latter. TWU 514 may say otherwise....

 

[777 fixer]

About 5 of 20 are done. As for the 73's it will be a while before the first shipsets arrive. Some are set up to readily accomadate winglets while most others will require structural work. My guess is that line stations may outfit the former while Tulsa will handle the latter. TWU 514 may say otherwise....

Tulsa will do all the 737 winglet mods. Even with the 737's that were built with winglets in mind it's still a job line stations are really not set up for.

 

[AMFAMAN]

Tulsa will do all the 737 winglet mods. Even with the 737's that were built with winglets in mind it's still a job line stations are really not set up for.

DFW is being told by the local that the 737 winglet mod and the MD80 galley removal mod are coming this way, this summer. How much weight I'll put into some known liars(local officers) words - not much.

 

[777 fixer]

DFW is being told by the local that the 737 winglet mod and the MD80 galley removal mod are coming this way, this summer. How much weight I'll put into some known liars(local officers) words - not much.

Now there's something I'll beleive when I see it.

 

[AMFAMAN]

Now there's something I'll beleive when I see it.

That makes two of us.

 

[eolesen]

DFW did a lot of the seat mods for More Room / Less Room, so I can see the galley mod coming there.

Only the last 25 deliveries of AA's 737 fleet have the strengthened outer spar and attach point for the winglet. The rest requires similar structures work to the 757 mod, and I've never seen anything to that extent done in a line station.

When N244 ran off the runway in ORD about 15 years ago, it tore off the nose gear and just about all the skin and stringers forward of the entry door. A group from structures was flown in, and "TUL North" rebuilt it onsite at ORD to the point where it could be flown unpressurized to TUL for the remaining work. Maybe things have changed since then, but with all due respect to the line AMT's, I wouldn't expect that level of expertise to be widespread.

 

[AMFAMAN]

Only the last 25 deliveries of AA's 737 fleet have the strengthened outer spar and attach point for the winglet.

Those 25 737's would make sense. The problem with the rest is not as much the expertise, as most of DFW AMT's worked at overhaul at one time, but the lack of equipment, tooling, and a management team that for the most part never worked overhaul.

 

[eolesen]

Agreed. Tooling for the actual mod may not be as much of a concern if there was a kit, but God only knows what they'd discover once the sheet metal came off.

 

[AMFAMAN]

Agreed. Tooling for the actual mod may not be as much of a concern if there was a kit, but God only knows what they'd discover once the sheet metal came off.

That would be true with the galley removal also.
Now picture the line supervisors face when faced with that dilema.

 

[PRINCESS KIDAGAKASH]

That would be true with the galley removal also.
Now picture the line supervisors face when faced with that dilema.

Oh don't worry about all that white-grayish powder under those galleys. That's just bonding compound. Well that's what they used to say at Braniff.

 

[Ken MacTiernan]

DFW did a lot of the seat mods for More Room / Less Room, so I can see the galley mod coming there.

Only the last 25 deliveries of AA's 737 fleet have the strengthened outer spar and attach point for the winglet. The rest requires similar structures work to the 757 mod, and I've never seen anything to that extent done in a line station.

When N244 ran off the runway in ORD about 15 years ago, it tore off the nose gear and just about all the skin and stringers forward of the entry door. A group from structures was flown in, and "TUL North" rebuilt it onsite at ORD to the point where it could be flown unpressurized to TUL for the remaining work. Maybe things have changed since then, but with all due respect to the line AMT's, I wouldn't expect that level of expertise to be widespread.

True FM. The Line isn't set up for such work. ESPECIALLY since we are having heads cut. As for Tulsa doing such good work another example is when there was a/c damage due to a towing "mishap". There was a hole under the fwd galley door that pushed the stringers inside the e/e compartment, along with the components associated with each effected shelf. There was also some damage inside the nose wheel well. This Tulsa Crew came into town and did a great job and were all very professional. They got the a/c in shape to fly back to T Town to finish the job.

Like I said at the Brady Theatre the Line respects the work done by our fellow A&P Brothers in Tulsa. Their job makes our job easier on the Line because we know we are getting a/c out of overhaul in great shape and we do our best to keep it that way til that a/c's next visit. Keep up the great work.