Aa Insourcing Dl Heavy Maint?

[DalMD88]

Heard a rumor last night that one of the DL 767 or 757 that AC was supposed to do has been sent to AA for Heavy Check. Can any one confirm this?

 

[MCI transplant]

Heard a rumor last night that one of the DL 767 or 757 that AC was supposed to do has been sent to AA for Heavy Check.  Can any one confirm this?

[post="275634"][/post]​

<_< Haven't heard anything here at MCI, we just finished a AC 767 Heavy "C" Check for them, and they were more than happy with the end product. Rumor had it they might be sending more work our way, but we were under the impression that would be AC aircraft also! Not saying it couldn"t happen! I'm sure this poor excuse for a Union here wouldn't turn it down!!! Maybe AFW?? Don't think it would be TUL, they're pretty much Maxed out! If I hear anything I'll let you know.

 

[AMFAMAN]

Heard a rumor last night that one of the DL 767 or 757 that AC was supposed to do has been sent to AA for Heavy Check.  Can any one confirm this?

[post="275634"][/post]​

According to this

It has also tapped Air Canada Technical Services to perform maintenance on 144 757 and 767 aircraft.

Delta outsourcing
Well since Air Canada now needs AA to do their 767 checks, maybe their in over their head and sends some Delta work to AA. Which asks the question of how much is the true savings? If Air Canada can do it cheaper and the dollar valuation surely has something to do with it, then how can they afford to send it to AA with our so-called high labor rates and the stronger dollar. Something doesn't add up here.

 

[MCI transplant]

According to this
Delta outsourcing
Well since Air Canada now needs AA to do their 767 checks, maybe their in over their head and sends some Delta work to AA. Which asks the question of how much is the true savings? If Air Canada can do it cheaper and the dollar valuation surely has something to do with it, then how can they afford to send it to AA with our so-called high labor rates and the stronger dollar. Something doesn't add up here.

[post="275674"][/post]​

<_< We were wondering that ourselfs! But when it came down to it, the only thing that makes any since is we can do it quicker and better than they can! Which adds up to "Cheaper"!! At least that's before the RIF!! aa has a habit of shoting themselfs in the foot! :down: But we'll not look a guift hourse in the mouth!! 😉

 

[AMFAMAN]

<_< We were wondering that ourselfs! But when it came down to it, the only thing that makes any since is we can do it quicker and better than they can! Which adds up to "Cheaper"!! At least that's before the RIF!! aa has a habit of shoting themselfs in the foot! :down: But we'll not look a guift hourse in the mouth!! 😉

[post="275691"][/post]​

Well the faster and better quality argument is also used with SWA and they pay about $10 an hour more. So I guess if Delta outsourced a 737 light C check to Air Canada who then outsourced it to AA who found out that the highest paid mechanics at SWA can do it even faster, we all can make money. 😛

 

[MCI transplant]

Well the faster and better quality argument is also used with SWA and they pay about $10 an hour more. So I guess if Delta outsourced a 737 light C check to Air Canada who then outsourced it to AA who found out that the highest paid mechanics at SWA can do it even faster, we all can make money. 😛

[post="275699"][/post]​

<_< I agree! Don't make much since! But as long as it keeps people on the payroll, I really don't care!!!!!

 

[MCI transplant]

<_< AMFAMAN----- 144 767&, or, 757 Aircraft? Where did you come up with that???

 

[AMFAMAN]

<_< AMFAMAN----- 144 767&, or, 757 Aircraft? Where did you come up with that???

[post="275728"][/post]​

http://news.cincypost.com/apps/pbcs.dll/ar.../503300333/1001

 

[Buck]

<_< I agree! Don't make much since! But as long as it keeps people on the payroll, I really don't care!!!!!

[post="275725"][/post]​

Is that the only important aspect of unionism?

 

[TWU informer]

<_< I agree! Don't make much since! But as long as it keeps people on the payroll, I really don't care!!!!!

[post="275725"][/post]​

Well hell Pilgrim.

If all we want is people on the payroll, why dont we sacrifice our seniority system so AA can rif the higher paid, older, less productive workers and hire thousands more younger lower paid, higher producing immigrants?

What "F' has unionism come to these days?

 

[MCI transplant]

Is that the only important aspect of unionism?

[post="275756"][/post]​

<_< Buck, Let's not jump to conclusions here! It's all we've done so far is one Air Canada 767! Do you have a problem with that???

 

[MCI transplant]

Well hell Pilgrim.

If all we want is people on the payroll, why dont we sacrifice our seniority system so AA can rif the higher paid, older, less productive workers and hire thousands more younger lower paid, higher producing immigrants?

What "F' has unionism come to these days?

[post="275760"][/post]​

<_< He11 partner! All along I thought that was what they were doing!!! :down: Oh, by the way! Just because they're younger, doesn't mean they'de be more productive!!!!We've proven that time and time again!

 

[Buck]

<_< Buck, Let's not jump to conclusions here! It's all we've done so far is one Air Canada 767! Do you have a problem with that???

[post="275776"][/post]​

I hope you accomplish more third party checks. The whole point is that labor is accomplishing all of the work at lower wages and benefits.

 

[MCI transplant]

I hope you accomplish more third party checks. The whole point is that labor is accomplishing all of the work at lower wages and benefits.

[post="275791"][/post]​

<_< Unfortionately your right! I wise there was a way to break this cycle!!! :down:

 

[Buck]

<_< Unfortionately your right! I wise there was a way to break this cycle!!! :down:

[post="275794"][/post]​

There is a way to break the cycle of labors wage and benefit deterioration.

Labor must unite as one and fight. The whole idea of the AFL-CIO uniting the divisions and locals is a grand cause that they have failed at. This is why the mechanics in the industry must unite and defend their profession. The enemy of the mechanics uniting is the AFL-CIO itself. The AFL-CIO has become a corporate entity in itself. There politics do not follow that of the majority of its members or the labor vote would become a controlling factor in todays political process. The socialistic mantra does not represent the members any longer. The AFL-CIO has created a massive division within itself and if it does not correct this division, labor will continue to deteriorate. The anti-AFL-CIO position of "be glad you have a job, brother" is getting old.

Article II: Objects and Principles

2. To aid and assist affiliated unions in extending the benefits of mutual assistance and collective bargaining to workers and to promote the organization of the unorganized into unions of their own choosing for their mutual aid, protection and advancement, giving recognition to the principle that both craft and industrial unions are appropriate, equal and necessary as methods of union organization.

This objective from the AFL-CIO Constitution proves that labor is not compliant with its goals. The lowering of wages and benefits to sustain dues flow does not beget true unionism. It is in fact anti-union, it is socialistic in nature and agrees with the companys plan of the most labor at the least cost.

When the AFL-CIO unite its members as one and takes the steps necessary to send the proper message, then and only then will there be a change to this cycle.