AA targeting third party component work

[Hopeful]

http://www.flightglobal.com/articles/2011/04/27/356008/american-focuses-on-component-maintenance-in-targeting-third-party.html

 

[Hopeful]

This coincides with more news.

http://www.newson6.com/category/121535/video-page?autoStart=true&topVideoCatNo=default&clipId=5791517

 

[Interested]

Isn't that what they said in the VP conference? They were going to look for more 3P shop/component work and NOT airframe work.

 

[Hopeful]

Isn't that what they said in the VP conference? They were going to look for more 3P shop/component work and NOT airframe work.

Don't know. But apparently that's the case.

 

[eolesen]

Isn't that what they said in the VP conference? They were going to look for more 3P shop/component work and NOT airframe work.

Haven't some of you guys commented that the back shops were less than fully utilized?

Ironic that Skyteam member Aeromexico off-shored work to AA and not the Widget. 😉

 

[Bob Owens]

Haven't some of you guys commented that the back shops were less than fully utilized?

Ironic that Skyteam member Aeromexico off-shored work to AA and not the Widget. 😉

Not at all, Foriegn carriers have been sending work to the US for decades, despite the fact that our labor costs difference,when adjusted for inflation, where much higher than than they are now.

 

[Frank Szabo]

Isn't that what they said in the VP conference? They were going to look for more 3P shop/component work and NOT airframe work.

I'm really curious as to how third party component work will pan out over time.

Thanks to the TWU involvement and the company's good ol' boys, it is assured only those with the least experience in all phases of manufacturing will be tapped to bring this about, if at all. I really hope this isn't the case but in my time at American I've seen the best of intentions hit the rocks repeatedly in order for somebody not to lose their supposed empire.

The company and union will have to prove to me they are serious by destroying the present empires and running the company like a business intended to make money. Show me that and also a effort to move away from the "screw-you" attitude ala Centrepork and I'm on board 100%.

 

[Interested]

I hope the 3P component maintenance works for us. Maybe in time, it will bring back 3P airframe work.

 

[MCI transplant]

<_< --------- Somehow I think I've heard this tune before!!! From someone who's been there, all's good, until AA's management looses interest! Than it's back to business as usual!! 😉 Just another carrot and stick!----- And a small one to boot!

 

[Kev3188]

I'm really curious as to how third party component work will pan out over time.

Thanks to the TWU involvement and the company's good ol' boys, it is assured only those with the least experience in all phases of manufacturing will be tapped to bring this about, if at all. I really hope this isn't the case but in my time at American I've seen the best of intentions hit the rocks repeatedly in order for somebody not to lose their supposed empire.

The company and union will have to prove to me they are serious by destroying the present empires and running the company like a business intended to make money. Show me that and also a effort to move away from the "screw-you" attitude ala Centrepork and I'm on board 100%.

I hope that turns out to be the case for you guys.

I hope the 3P component maintenance works for us. Maybe in time, it will bring back 3P airframe work.

Isn't 3P component work much more profitable (factoring in manhours) than heavy airframe work? Wouldn't you want to focus on the that instead?

 

[Frank Szabo]

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Isn't 3P component work much more profitable (factoring in manhours) than heavy airframe work? Wouldn't you want to focus on the that instead?

Airframe AND component should be profitable if the books are kept correctly.

 

[eolesen]

I'd think that component work is more profitable simply because of the real estate and productivity.

To me, overhaul implies tying up a dock and lots of potential for unproductive time as problems are discovered. It's not like you can move a stalled airframe outside and bring another one into the dock for a day or three while you wait for the issues to be resolved...

With components, it seems like you'd have more ability to queue things up or do concurrent work, and not have as much downtime.

 

[Bob Owens]

I'd think that component work is more profitable simply because of the real estate and productivity.

To me, overhaul implies tying up a dock and lots of potential for unproductive time as problems are discovered. It's not like you can move a stalled airframe outside and bring another one into the dock for a day or three while you wait for the issues to be resolved...

With components, it seems like you'd have more ability to queue things up or do concurrent work, and not have as much downtime.

I guess it depends on what components you are talking about. I believe Delta and UAL kept all their Engine work while shipping out a lot of other stuff because the engine work is big bucks, just shipping the things around is big bucks.

 

[Hackman]

I guess it depends on what components you are talking about. I believe Delta and UAL kept all their Engine work while shipping out a lot of other stuff because the engine work is big bucks, just shipping the things around is big bucks.

Bob, concerning Delta's engine work, TAESL does all of Delta's 777 Trent 895 engines. TAESL also does all of the UPS RB211-535 and Fed Ex RB211-535 for the their 757's, and also several brand X RB211 engines. I guess it's because our Twu labor costs are so low, TAESL makes millions off our backs.

 

[Hackman]

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