Accuracy In Media
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Obama will save us! HE has brought us CHANGE!
Yeah.....that's all you'll have in your pocket in the end. :down:
Ed Norton
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You must work in overhaul. In the REAL airline environment (outside of overhaul) you don't have to show up evryday. As long as you have a warm body covering your shift you can take off for weeks if you have to. Pilots usually fly 60 hrs. per month. I don't know the TWA specifics but I'm sure Barry had plenty of time on his hands for his extra curricular activities. Besides, after his 1984 arrest, TWA fired him.
I suppose Celerino Castillo and Gary Webb are liars too.
Like I said, believe what you want.
OBAMA IS OUR MESSIAH!
What????
Not any of the airlines for which I have worked.
And yes, it was in the real airline environment (if you mean Line Maintenance)...
BTW, all airline workers are in the "real airline environment", Mr. Elite...
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You must work in overhaul. In the REAL airline environment (outside of overhaul) you don't have to show up evryday. As long as you have a warm body covering your shift you can take off for weeks if you have to. Pilots usually fly 60 hrs. per month. I don't know the TWA specifics but I'm sure Barry had plenty of time on his hands for his extra curricular activities. Besides, after his 1984 arrest, TWA fired him.
I suppose Celerino Castillo and Gary Webb are liars too.
Like I said, believe what you want.
OBAMA IS OUR MESSIAH!
No I work the line so don't try and peddle this BS story of yours on me.
Were not talking about a ramper, fleet service clerk or mechanic swapping shifts for a week or two. Were talking about a pilot who has to maintain a certain number of hours and yearly requals. Where in the world would he find the time to fly sixty hours a month along with his "extra curricular" activities? Activities that included a year in Vietnam, almost a year in a Honduran jail, running drugs, smuggling C4 and being arrested numerous times by US authorities.
I would think that being gone for extended periods of time along with being arrested numerous occasions TWA might have taken notice of this. One would think that someone would have called the FAA or TWA about this guy. Or are you going to try and tell me they did not notice any of this until 1984? I know that if I were not at work for nine months my boss is going to want to know where I was. But then I'm just a line mechanic so they probably would not care.
I guess it's much easier for you to buy this guys story hook line and sinker. Don't want to put to much thought into now do you Ed?
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Must be nice to work for an airline that lets you come and go as you please.
Maybe Ed will tell us which airline he works for so we can all send resume's there. 😉
Ed Norton
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OK, you win. Barry Seal did not even exist. He is an urban legend.
Celerino Castillo and Gary Webb don't exist either.
Yes you know all. I'm just an easily duped rube. It does get kind of boring here at "Bug Tussel Int." so they don't even notice when I'm gone looking for Elvis and UFO's...oh yes, black helicopters. B)
FOX/CNN/MSNBC/ABC/CBS/NBC IS the ONLY true source of information!
All hail our departing leader George W. Bush! All praise be to our new Messiah Barry Obama!
Ed Norton
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I never said what you said I said when I was saying what you said I was saying .... :blink: :blink:
It was not said what you think was said when what you think was said, was said... :wacko: :wacko:
You are imagining things that I never said that you are imagining I said... 🙄 🙄
It's all a conspiracy!
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If its not on TV, its not true! Baaahhhh 😀
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OK, you win. Barry Seal did not even exist. He is an urban legend.
Celerino Castillo and Gary Webb don't exist either.
Yes you know all. I'm just an easily duped rube. It does get kind of boring here at "Bug Tussel Int." so they don't even notice when I'm gone looking for Elvis and UFO's...oh yes, black helicopters. B)
FOX/CNN/MSNBC/ABC/CBS/NBC IS the ONLY true source of information!
All hail our departing leader George W. Bush! All praise be to our new Messiah Barry Obama!
I never said he was a figment of someone's imagination. What I said was that the part about him working at TWA for almost twenty years while at the same time smuggling drugs, smuggling C4, spending a year in Vietnam, spending almost a year in a Honduran jail and being arrested on numerous occasions was BS. This should call into question other parts of his story as well. Especially the parts about him being in Special Forces.
On another site they also mention him working for TWA. However they say that within a year at the age of twenty six he was qualified to fly on the 707. Once again let me raise the BS flag. Since you work for an airline I'll let you figure out what's wrong with that claim.
Barry Seals story reminds me of guys who claim to have won the Medal of Honor who in reality if they had even served in the military they were stateside working in admin. He more then likely was nothing more a con man/criminal who invented this persona to make himself feel more important than he really was. He's not the first guy to have done it that's for sure. Just as he's not the first guy to get involved in criminal activities and end up with a bullet in his head.
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If its not on TV, its not true! Baaahhhh 😀
Or in your case if it's not on the internet its not true!
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Come on brother, you can be more original than that. Don't bite my style B)
What's wrong with the internet? Everyone of your so called credible news outlets has a web site. Name one. CNN, Wall Street Journal, NY Times. Every government agency and every college, school district, etc. has one; and yes any "wacko" with a little knowledge can set up a web page too. What we have here is true unfiltered, Town Square type free speach.
Since all our so called main stream media is corporately controlled, naturally you will only get the corporate government point of view. The JFK assasination is a prime example. The Warren Commision determined that Lee Harvey Oswald was the lone assasin and not part of a plot. AMEN. End of story. Yet year after year there is a never endeing parade of investigative documentaries touting "new" findings and using "modern technology" that give us the "difinitive" proof that Lee Harvey Oswald acted alone. Who are they trying to convince if the government already told us the truth?
We are told that Lee Oswald defected to the USSR to work in a radio factory. He then was allowes to marry Marina Nikolayevna Prusakova, the niece of Colonel Ilya Vasilyevich Prusakov, who was with the Soviet Ministry of Internal Affairs (MVD). He and his wife were then allowed to return to the U.S. All this at the height of the Cold War. Anyway, thats another story.
Barry Seal was who they say he was. The web site I cited gives various accounts, from various sources on how Barry did what he did, some may contradict. I am not responsible for that and you may believe what you wish.
The facts are that Barry Seal was convicted of drug smuggling. He was given probation.The judge ordered him to report to a Salvation Army halfway house from dusk 'til dawn and forbidden from carrying a gun or hiring a body guard. He was gunned down in the parking lot of the afore mentioned half way house.
I noticed you are hung up on Barry Seal. What about Castillo and Webb? Is all that information bogus too?
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Barry Seal was who they say he was. The web site I cited gives various accounts, from various sources on how Barry did what he did, some may contradict.
That statement makes no sense at all. You state that he was who they say he was yet then add that some sources may contradict. Well if they contradict then logic would call into question parts of his story. Speaking of sources lets look at some of them. His wife, spouses are not always the best sources of objective info on a person. The Spartacus site, High Times, Wikipedia etc. Please forgive me if I'm a bit doubtful of his story with sources like this. Especially with all the contradictions.
Quite frankly I don't know how anyone who claims to work in the airline industry could buy that whole part about him working for TWA. As I have said several times where would he find the time to work for TWA becoming the youngest 707 and 747 pilot there? While at the same time spending a year in Vietnam, almost a year in a Honduran jail along with numerous arrests.
Here are some questions about his story that you obviously did not ask.
What are the chances of a guy in his mid twenties getting a job with TWA and not even two years latter flying a 707, the 777 of its day? Didn't you have to spend some time sitting sideways on smaller aircraft?
Where would he have gotten the necessary multi-engine hours while being in the Army Special Forces?
Does the Army just let people join up and put then right into Special Forces?
Wouldn’t being arrested trying to smuggle C4 in 1972 on a DC-4 not attract the attention of the FAA? And would not the FAA call TWA?
How could he work full time for TWA while as the story says "began working full-time for the CIA, traveling back and forth from the United States to Latin America."?
Finally, who in their right mind having a well paying job at a major airline spend a year in Vietnam? Or jeopardize it all by smuggling drugs, explosives and god knows what else. And of course, where would he find the time?
So Ed while you may call the rest of us sheep but it appears you’re the biggest one here.
If its not on TV, its not true! Baaahhhh 😀
Ed..by this picture...are you sending a subliminal message that Seals was 'sheep dipped?'
