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Why do gun nuts say that it's not the gun, it's the person, but when legislation is introduced (in Kansas) to confiscate guns of people deemed to be a threat to themselves or others (the people) they then play "they want to take your guns' card? Does that mean that all gun owners are a threat to themselves or others?
For one thing, tell me that process won't be abused by people and the courts.

Person drives through a crowd of people or kills innocents while driving drunk, must be the car.......'eh?
 
For one thing, tell me that process won't be abused by people and the courts.

Person drives through a crowd of people or kills innocents while driving drunk, must be the car.......'eh?
Thanks for proving my point. If it's not the gun but the person, what do you do to stop the person? More guns I guess.
 
Thanks for proving my point. If it's not the gun but the person, what do you do to stop the person? More guns I guess.
You proved your own point by quoting what law abiding gun owners have been saying for decades. In almost everyone of these cases, the 'nut with a gun' slipped through the cracks of the democrat knee jerk mandates against law biding gun owners. How many times have we heard all his relatives knew he had guns and was crazy, or the police or FBI were alerted?

Notice a renewed focus on MSM coverage of just about every shooting now? Even non political Fauci has now become political saying that guns are a public health issue. That's right out of the dems hate guns rhetoric. You can now see who he sucks up to. Not hard to wonder what Trump saw in his character that he didn't like and is most likely why Trump snubbed him after some time.

Regarding this recent, since Joe got elected, crime spree with guns........how convenient for an agenda. Similar things happened when Clinton was crowing about guns and pretty much ended after Bush was elected.

Is the public now wigging out from about a year and a half of pandemic porn, freaking out kids, job losses, MSM drama and the like?

Nothing to say about this, I see:

For one thing, tell me that process won't be abused by people and the courts.
 
You proved your own point by quoting what law abiding gun owners have been saying for decades. In almost everyone of these cases, the 'nut with a gun' slipped through the cracks of the democrat knee jerk mandates against law biding gun owners. How many times have we heard all his relatives knew he had guns and was crazy, or the police or FBI were alerted?

Notice a renewed focus on MSM coverage of just about every shooting now? Even non political Fauci has now become political saying that guns are a public health issue. That's right out of the dems hate guns rhetoric. You can now see who he sucks up to. Not hard to wonder what Trump saw in his character that he didn't like and is most likely why Trump snubbed him after some time.

Regarding this recent, since Joe got elected, crime spree with guns........how convenient for an agenda. Similar things happened when Clinton was crowing about guns and pretty much ended after Bush was elected.

Is the public now wigging out from about a year and a half of pandemic porn, freaking out kids, job losses, MSM drama and the like?

Nothing to say about this, I see:

For one thing, tell me that process won't be abused by people and the courts.

And thank you for proving in that long response that "nothing" is the answer. Because you didn't even suggest one thing to stop "the person". We can't stop the person from getting or owning the gun...we can't limit the guns the person can get. So the answer is "thoughts and prayers".

Here in Kansas, a state legislator proposed a law to codify taking the guns of someoned deemed to be a hazard to himself or others. You know...like shooting up a mall or school or movie theatre. It was shot down (no pun intended). This legislator ran for US Senate and her opponent used that issue saying "she proposed a law to take your guns". And if these western Kansas idiots would have looked a little further into it, they would realize that he just said that they were a hazard to themselves and others. Because what she proposed TRIED to address "the person" rather than the gun. But we can't even do that.
 
And thank you for proving in that long response that "nothing" is the answer. Because you didn't even suggest one thing to stop "the person". We can't stop the person from getting or owning the gun...we can't limit the guns the person can get. So the answer is "thoughts and prayers".

Here in Kansas, a state legislator proposed a law to codify taking the guns of someoned deemed to be a hazard to himself or others. You know...like shooting up a mall or school or movie theatre. It was shot down (no pun intended). This legislator ran for US Senate and her opponent used that issue saying "she proposed a law to take your guns". And if these western Kansas idiots would have looked a little further into it, they would realize that he just said that they were a hazard to themselves and others. Because what she proposed TRIED to address "the person" rather than the gun. But we can't even do that.
Missed the boat, KC. Laws and privacy protections prevent most, if not all, you cite. Figured you'd know that.
 
Missed the boat, KC. Laws and privacy protections prevent most, if not all, you cite. Figured you'd know that.
Again....nothing is the right answer. Then...when it happens again, it's thoughts and prayers and it's not the gun it's the person. We can't do anything to address either.
 
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Notice in the EU, Britain and elsewhere, gun control is so effective, knife slashings are the Crime de Jour these days.

Must have been the guns after all.

And all those laws we have restricting access to drugs sure have worked to stop people from getting cocaine, heroin, meth, fentanyl, etc...

Raising the drinking age (and smoking age?) to 21 has also stopped all underage drinking and smoking.

Creating laws makes the legislature look like they "did something" when in effect it's all kabuki for the lemmings who think that they can control human nature.
 
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Geez. Dell the Omniscient... Latest "police kills someone" shooting involves a girl attacking people with a knife.
 
And thank you for proving in that long response that "nothing" is the answer. Because you didn't even suggest one thing to stop "the person". We can't stop the person from getting or owning the gun...we can't limit the guns the person can get. So the answer is "thoughts and prayers".

Here in Kansas, a state legislator proposed a law to codify taking the guns of someoned deemed to be a hazard to himself or others. You know...like shooting up a mall or school or movie theatre. It was shot down (no pun intended). This legislator ran for US Senate and her opponent used that issue saying "she proposed a law to take your guns". And if these western Kansas idiots would have looked a little further into it, they would realize that he just said that they were a hazard to themselves and others. Because what she proposed TRIED to address "the person" rather than the gun. But we can't even do that.
Chicago has very strict gun control. Red flag laws, gun free zones the works. Why don't you move there?
 
Chicago has very strict gun control. Red flag laws, gun free zones the works. Why don't you move there?
YOu must not be following the thread. I asked why if it's not the gun it's the person, hasn't the right offered anything to address the person....and indeed will shoot down any proposal that does address the people and not the gun
 
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Please. The gun violence problems in ChIraq are a result of 50 years of single party control of the City of Chicago and Democrat's approach to policing and the State's approach to welfare programs...

I've lived in a county that borders Cook County (Chicago), and we have none of the gun crime or homocides because all of the county-wide positions are locked in Republican, almost all of the mayoral and township positions are Republican (there are a few pockets here and there which swing blue) and law enforcement is pretty much free to do their job. And it shows in our crime/homocides. Best data I could find says only 3 homocides in ten years and we're about 40 miles from downtown.
 
And all those laws we have restricting access to drugs sure have worked to stop people from getting cocaine, heroin, meth, fentanyl, etc...

Raising the drinking age (and smoking age?) to 21 has also stopped all underage drinking and smoking.

Creating laws makes the legislature look like they "did something" when in effect it's all kabuki for the lemmings who think that they can control human nature.

Okay...laws against guns don't work. Laws against people don't work. What do you propose to reduce mass shootings in this country? Thoughts, prayers and more guns?
 
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Okay...laws against guns don't work. Laws against people don't work. What do you propose to reduce mass shootings in this country? Thoughts, prayers and more guns?

Fewer gang-bangers would be a good start. They're responsible for the majority of mass shootings in the country... but that never quite makes the liberal news.

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