American Airlines and Labor Negotiations

[Talos]

Way to go TWU Local 513!!!!!!!!

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513 is catching a lot of heat from members. I heard today that members in AUS was pushing the TWU about the Association and how to get out of it. The letter to membership brings up many good points. There can be many lemons dropped in with the good stuff. I think most people want to be informed about just how bad is the bad stuff. The company doing what they have done has incited many members. I think the TWU is going to have to let people know just how bad the bad stuff is. It seems the large majority of people feel if the union won't answer the company statements with facts we should vote on it to see it. When we did not have a say in voting for the Association the union lost a lot of trust from the membership.

 

[Racer X]

What happens if all other groups have the same language?

Do you remember this???
This is how the “ what if “ conversation started

 

[WeAAsles]

513 is catching a lot of heat from members. I heard today that members in AUS was pushing the TWU about the Association and how to get out of it. The letter to membership brings up many good points. There can be many lemons dropped in with the good stuff. I think most people want to be informed about just how bad is the bad stuff. The company doing what they have done has incited many members. I think the TWU is going to have to let people know just how bad the bad stuff is. It seems the large majority of people feel if the union won't answer the company statements with facts we should vote on it to see it. When we did not have a say in voting for the Association the union lost a lot of trust from the membership.

So because the old Jim Little and Tom Buffenbarger teams didn’t do the right thing and let us vote for the Association now we should grasp this with all its trap doors and make a run for it just so we can say we voted?

Sorry you’re starting to lose me here.

Oh and I think the TWU (513) just let you know how bad things are. Wouldn’t you agree?

 

[WeAAsles]

Didn't read the "maintenance" part.

Oh wait a minute NOW I get this one. Because it’s “Maintenance” it can’t be placed into your argument I suppose?

Was that what you were getting at with your parentheses?

 

[ALUS78]

Way to go TWU Local 513!!!!!!!!

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Tim what can be done to end this stalemate?What can be done to prevent this to be drawn out for years?

 

[737823]

Tim why has the IAM not had success with with organizing DL in any classification despite multiple attempts in past decade? Send your organizing leadership at 141 is more effective than what the GL is putting out.

Josh

 

[WeAAsles]

Tim what can be done to end this stalemate?What can be done to prevent this to be drawn out for years?

If I had 1978 Seniority I guess I could take everything as a joke too?

 

[NYer]

513 is catching a lot of heat from members. I heard today that members in AUS was pushing the TWU about the Association and how to get out of it. The letter to membership brings up many good points. There can be many lemons dropped in with the good stuff. I think most people want to be informed about just how bad is the bad stuff. The company doing what they have done has incited many members. I think the TWU is going to have to let people know just how bad the bad stuff is. It seems the large majority of people feel if the union won't answer the company statements with facts we should vote on it to see it. When we did not have a say in voting for the Association the union lost a lot of trust from the membership.

The frustration seems to be more about a lack of information rather than a jump for the shiny object.

The information void was allowed to be filled by LAA.

 

[AANOTOK]

OK TWU, you have outlined the negatives in the "proposal". I have asked the IAM what leverage do we have to improve on any of those negativity's, and what is the plan. I read updates day after day and can till the cows come home, but I have yet to see how things will be rectified. So far it's sit and wait. Again, you the TWU have nothing to gain and actually lose a bunch in section 6, and that other union (IAM) will retain what they have and be OK at least through section 6. It's time to stop calling this an Association and call it what it really is, two separate unions.

 

[ALUS78]

If I had 1978 Seniority I guess I could take everything as a joke too?

Its far reaching I was introduced as a Tim Nelson supporter today and the guy wouldnt shake my hand.

 

[ALUS78]

Tim why has the IAM not had success with with organizing DL in any classification despite multiple attempts in past decade? Send your organizing leadership at 141 is more effective than what the GL is putting out.

Josh

I saw a recruiter today of I see him tommorw ill ask if he wants Tims advice

 

[AANOTOK]

I graduated high school in 78' Al...What a good year!

 

[ALUS78]

If I had 1978 Seniority I guess I could take everything as a joke too?

Youll get the last laugh when I have Monday/Tuesday off

 

[ALUS78]

I graduated high school in 78' Al...What a good year!

77 myself

 

[ALUS78]

If I had 1978 Seniority I guess I could take everything as a joke too?

Well obviously things are going in the chitter we need help from somewhere,anywhere