American Airlines and Labor Negotiations

[WeAAsles]

You calling someone else antagonistic is simply laughable.

There's lots of documentation on that one.

Again over and over can you confirm where you heard or saw the “must have” comment you’ve been attempting to sell for AA Management?

Why is it so difficult for you to find that phrase?

 

[NYer]

ok, so what were the constants that the company never enhanced/budged on for each public proposal? lus insurance and catering.

and, profit sharing?

ok, add the lus insurance and some scope and tell me if it adds up to the potential of the company paying hundreds of millions per year in profit sharing and/or, the possibility of aa working regionals in hubs?



my personal feeling is that the company is close with wages/401k, bit further off on scope...though i feel the lavs part is ridiculous and the company will relent. the laa guys i know are more than ok with the wages, i'm the one who wants too much ($32.50/hr without differential on DOS, TOS of $36/hr without differential).

hopefully, the company will further sweeten their public and private proposal.

for a vote, it's not my opinion or an lus agent's opinion. weaasles talks about an insurance compromise. what if there is no insurance compromise. will the iam part of the assoc. allow this to come to a vote?

you say it's 50-50? i'd say if the iam assoc. big-shooters are confident that they can sell to their rank & file the trade-off of the insurance for the money, then we'll get a vote.

if not, laa will grumble that they (lus iam) went from $20/hr to potentially all of us at TOS $35.50/hr, but due to the insurance issue, we're stuck in the mud and could possibly lose more.

The fact the airline is trying to tamper the expansion of their employee base it seems unlikely to expand it by adding regional work. If they were, I'd guess the Association would use that to protect the current proposed cuts rather than exchange them.

Don't see $36 in DOS, figure they'd go no higher than 3% ahead of UA's December numbers or about $32.17.

Don't think the IAM rank and file can be bought on their medical. Aside from that don't think the airline will pay 10,000 LAA guys so 7,000 LUS guys can be bought off.

 

[737823]

Anyone stupid enough to vote IBT deserves all the chit sandwiches they get. IBT?? Lmao

Say what you want but enough of your coworkers were interested in 2013 that the IAM mobilized 700 and got out in full force.

Good times, it sure was fun especially right around the DOJ lawsuit and injunction stopping the merger.

Josh

 

[aintgotnotimefodat]

My serious suggestion is to start a Facebook Group page and advertise it to both LAA and LUS Members. Once the page is up and you have a baseline going start your sales pitch.

You can also use Vistaprint and make up cards to send to Stations maybe advertising your Group page?

After 53 years of trying at AA you have to assume that it will happen someday right?

How u can even support the TWU...oh wait ur a fsc...nevermind

 

[CremaDiLimone]

Don't see $36 in DOS, figure they'd go no higher than 3% ahead of UA's December numbers or about $32.17.

no, $32.50 on DOS, $36/hr TOS...you know, when you max out.

and yes, the 3% more than united's dec. raises is very close for me.

 

[aintgotnotimefodat]

AMFA worked out real well at NWA. Maybe we can elect AMFA and have a replay of 2005 at the New AAL.

Actually...under the TWU, our non bankruptcy concessions were deeper than the other bankruptcy filing airlines...great negotiations...

Take an amt under AMFA vs TWU who has better pay and benefits since amfa started at NW....

Clearly Amfa...enough said...TWU may be a bigger, around longer...but the international said it best...we are a company union....again...what a joke

 

[WeAAsles]

ok, so what were the constants that the company never enhanced/budged on for each public proposal? lus insurance and catering.

and, profit sharing?

ok, add the lus insurance and some scope and tell me if it adds up to the potential of the company paying hundreds of millions per year in profit sharing and/or, the possibility of aa working regionals in hubs?



my personal feeling is that the company is close with wages/401k, bit further off on scope...though i feel the lavs part is ridiculous and the company will relent. the laa guys i know are more than ok with the wages, i'm the one who wants too much ($32.50/hr without differential on DOS, TOS of $36/hr without differential).

hopefully, the company will further sweeten their public and private proposal.

for a vote, it's not my opinion or an lus agent's opinion. weaasles talks about an insurance compromise. what if there is no insurance compromise. will the iam part of the assoc. allow this to come to a vote?

you say it's 50-50? i'd say if the iam assoc. big-shooters are confident that they can sell to their rank & file the trade-off of the insurance for the money, then we'll get a vote.

if not, laa will grumble that they (lus iam) went from $20/hr to potentially all of us at TOS $35.50/hr, but due to the insurance issue, we're stuck in the mud and could possibly lose more.

I’m beginning to see on multiple IAM FB Group pages that I’ve had the courtesy to be included on that there are lines in the sand being drawn.

The Company has begun a roadshow into IAM Stations to try and sell the LAA Medical called:

“THE HEALTH AND WEALTH ROADSHOW”

I kid you not. Now personally I watched the Company propaganda videos and I can’t see how they think they can sell this?

 

[aintgotnotimefodat]

Apparently I have a new stalker who has joined the Forums. Are you the field tester for the IBT?

No, just can't believe u haven't had enough of the TWU yet...lol..maybe ur a paid officer or just a follower...

 

[AANOTOK]

ok, so what were the constants that the company never enhanced/budged on for each public proposal? lus insurance and catering.

and, profit sharing?

ok, add the lus insurance and some scope and tell me if it adds up to the potential of the company paying hundreds of millions per year in profit sharing and/or, the possibility of aa working regionals in hubs?



my personal feeling is that the company is close with wages/401k, bit further off on scope...though i feel the lavs part is ridiculous and the company will relent. the laa guys i know are more than ok with the wages, i'm the one who wants too much ($32.50/hr without differential on DOS, TOS of $36/hr without differential).

hopefully, the company will further sweeten their public and private proposal.

for a vote, it's not my opinion or an lus agent's opinion. weaasles talks about an insurance compromise. what if there is no insurance compromise. will the iam part of the assoc. allow this to come to a vote?

you say it's 50-50? i'd say if the iam assoc. big-shooters are confident that they can sell to their rank & file the trade-off of the insurance for the money, then we'll get a vote.

if not, laa will grumble that they (lus iam) went from $20/hr to potentially all of us at TOS $35.50/hr, but due to the insurance issue, we're stuck in the mud and could possibly lose more.

I was totally satisfied with the jump to $30.82. Anything moving forward is icing.

 

[CremaDiLimone]

I was totally satisfied with the jump to $30.82. Anything moving forward is icing.

see, there you go..i'm the one who wants too much

 

[aintgotnotimefodat]

AMFA worked out real well at NWA. Maybe we can elect AMFA and have a replay of 2005 at the New AAL.

Not worse than the TWU "negotiated", outside of bankruptcy contract that we're still under since 2003...sad but true

 

[WeAAsles]

no, $32.50 on DOS, $36/hr TOS...you know, when you max out.

and yes, the 3% more than united's dec. raises is very close for me.

Ironic that I’m actually the one that finds the 3% to continue to be subpar. Especially with the items so far they’re still asking for.

But the only way I guess to make the cash look good is to say you’re not going to include the Sports Package with the sale of the vehicle and then relent to the package for the same price.

 

[CremaDiLimone]

I’m beginning to see on multiple IAM FB Group pages that I’ve had the courtesy to be included on that there are lines in the sand being drawn.

The Company has begun a roadshow into IAM Stations to try and sell the LAA Medical called:

“THE HEALTH AND WEALTH ROADSHOW”

I kid you not. Now personally I watched the Company propaganda videos and I can’t see how they think they can sell this?

i didn't know that...but, i believe this bodes well for those who want a further sweetener and want to vote on a ta.

why would aa waste resources for something that won't come to a vote? they must be prepping that there will be a vote...if so, chances are their last public proposal will be enhanced - except the lus insurance.

 

[WeAAsles]

No, just can't believe u haven't had enough of the TWU yet...lol..maybe ur a paid officer or just a follower...

I like the picture of your Dog. He’s very cute.

 

[AANOTOK]

see, there you go..i'm the one who wants too much

Maybe you're one of those "Putzes" someone claims fills these forums.