American’s pilots take look at productivity

[AAviator]

Is flying three two hour segments or three three hour segments really all that more work? The number of takeoffs, landings, and preflights is the same, so my question for you is how much more work it is to be at cruise for another hour?

Where do I sign up? Fly me 90 hrs. Just don't put me on the road 30-40% more days that the Southwest pilot. I'd love to work and get paid like a Southwest pilot. They do my 75 hrs. in 10 days. Throw me in that briar patch. I guess its safe to assume, since we're comparing apples here that the hourly rate will be the same too.....

Wrench, glad you found the info useful. Its easy for someone from another employee group to run something up the flag pole about another employee group, even if they have no clue as to the underlying issues surrounding the reason. In the case of Airwar, he has a long history of singling out the pilots to belly up to the bar.

Mach85, glad you got the cat reference. Regarding the DCA 737I base, its Hetterman protected, so its here to stay. Inefficient as hell but you can't say he forgot his homies with 24+ hour layovers at the Sherry on Miami beach 😀 . Funny thing about the 737 time: APA put on the table an offer to combine the domestic and international bid status for that fleet to help with the manning issues because of fleet size and location. It sat there for over 2 years. It was withdrawn this spring because the APA wasn't willing to give the company anything in return to make it happen. (yea, you read that right)

Your 85 hours and 16 days assessment is something that is sure to get voted down if it doesn't include WN rates. Besides, they can apply supplement M scheduling or even VJA, and take us there today without any contractual modifications. A better idea would be to fix the TTOT system, which would improve productivity, and cause sick time drop like a rock.

More hours shouldn't be a problem. More days will. What are your thoughts on the timing of this? We're supposed to exchange early section 6 openers in May.

 

[lpbrian]

I just love to see the management types and the pilot types argue..Like butlers throwing pies in each others faces!!

 

[eolesen]

I had a chance to browse thru my contingency plan books last night...

the ONLY people WORKING the flights that did go out over the strike, as jumpseat occupying crew members were scabs.

There were some FA's who crossed. But there were also flight service management with quals, as well as several hundred other management employees who had previously been flight attendants, and were put thru EPT's and refreshers in order to bring their quals up to date.

In addition to that, you had Management Volunteers and Service Assistants.

Service Assistants were the original plan for supplementing FAA minimum crew, and these were mostly trained in October on non-safety items during a three day class.

On Nov 2 (after the cooling off period ended), safety related training was added and course was expanded to eight days. By the time the strike was called, there were at least four classes of MV's available to work trips.

The replacement workers were in the course of being trained when Crandall asked Pena if the training could be shortened..(14 to 8 days..?)
The request was denied..

New hire replacements were in the course of being trained, but as I said above, management volunteers had already been working the line as of the morning of the strike.

What did happen with training is that the FAA asked that it be extended to nine days plus one day for IOE, which AA agreed to do (not that it mattered -- Clinton intervened before they completed the ninth day).