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"As it turned out, I was lucky to hit all the gates at the right time, I got hired at Mesa, quickly became a captain there and was hired at America West right when they were starting their expansion after bankruptcy.”

Just another Mesa pilot trying to reach the big time by leap frogging seniority.

As Mr Kirby has stated to you recently; "NO"

http://www.pwc.com/u...re-routed.jhtml

Mesa america west pilots are trying to show you East Pilots how it should be done. They are so much smarter than you. (sarcasm)

http://www.unbiasedf...MaestroOpEd.pdf
 
"Your proposals drastically reducing the amount I can fly along with other cuts and reductions in our contract will mean a big pay cut for me. No thanks!"

"I have seventeen days off in
November and will have over 96 hours of credit."

america west pilot quote above from Capt S G.

This is why your fellow america west pilots are on furlough, but of course it is all about you.
 
"I’ve given over $2,500 so far to Leonidas and AWAPPA,
plus (starting in July 2011) another $50 every month to Leonidas. Since I make vastly more than my east counterparts, this amount is (thankfully) inconsequential. And, tax-deductible!"

No, it is not tax deductible. I would advise you to refile your taxes. Only union fees and assessments are deductible.

If there are any IRS reps out there, any advice for this pilot and other america west AOL contributors?

Please take in to consideration that this same group of america west pilots were overpaid for training for many years. They had to repay the airline for their ignorance of their own contract. They are certainly aware of the consequences of ignorance of any contract or tax laws by now and will certainly take responsibility for their actions.

Have a nice day all.
 
...Please take in to consideration that this same group of america west pilots were overpaid for training for many years. They had to repay the airline for their ignorance of their own contract. They are certainly aware of the consequences of ignorance of any contract or tax laws by now and will certainly take responsibility for their actions.

Have a nice day all.

Hey Maroon;
Did you know that there were a bunch of east pilots that were overpaid by the company (based on incorrect longevity)? That was much easier to detect than the distance learning "over payment", I guess those FURLOUGHED US Air pilots were just too excited to be working again that they missed it.

BTW, several tax consultants were queried about contributions to an LLC that then pays for legal counsel to protect employment status. The consensus was it was allowed. I recall one person going through a random audit & the subject matter was approved.

Keep clicking thiose ruby red shoes, Dorothy. Oz is just around the corner.
 
BTW, several tax consultants were queried about contributions to an LLC that then pays for legal counsel to protect employment status. The consensus was it was allowed. I recall one person going through a random audit & the subject matter was approved.

Yes, to an exent a PORTION may be tax deductible, but it varies according to each individual's tax situation. None is 100% tax deductible. So Uncle Sam is not really giving anyone any real tax break on this....
 
What, your transparent union has not released the transcripts yet?

I would think that if usapa had won in NY they would be eager to let the pilots know how the judge took your side.

Better be careful about that stipulation. It applies more to usapa then the west.


I never thought the NY bankruptcy judge would take over the case. I'm sure he is busy enough. But you have to try all the angles. Bottom line is it looks like AWA pilots have officially agreed not to try and stop the merger. Because you never know what stunt they might try if things didn't go there way. My prediction is it will now be thrown out of AZ because its not ripe, I hope it goes to Wake he won't like getting spanked by the 9th again
 
I never thought the NY bankruptcy judge would take over the case. I'm sure he is busy enough. But you have to try all the angles. Bottom line is it looks like AWA pilots have officially agreed not to try and stop the merger. Because you never know what stunt they might try if things didn't go there way. My prediction is it will now be thrown out of AZ because its not ripe, I hope it goes to Wake he won't like getting spanked by the 9th again
Try all the angles?

So intentionally wasting money, delaying a contract and doing whatever it takes to avoid your responsibilities is acceptable with you?

Between the two cases usapa had 10 lawyers working but could not manage to make any of the deadlines in Arizona.

Will you feel the same way when APA is spending your money irresponsibly?

Read the transcripts. Leonidas published them yesterday unlike usapa. They did not cover that angle.

Usapa was the only one in the room delaying the merger and avoiding the answer.

The UCC, AMR, US Airways and the west all want this finished. Why is usapa the only one that does not want a court to decide?

Everyone in that courtroom said it was ripe. The one person that looked foolish was the usapa lawyer. Everyone else was on the same page except him. The rest of the players know what usapa is about now. Delay! That will come to an end.
 
THE COURT: And the debtors are waiting for that list to be provided to them.
MR. MOLLEN: The debtor is sort of agnostic as to what the list looks like, but they have to come to the table with a list, and --
THE COURT: But I guess that list would essentially go to US Airways and then go to you.
MR. MOLLEN: Correct.
THE COURT: It really is a US Airway's issue when you think about it that way.
 
THE COURT: All right. Let me hear from USAPA.
Is that -- assuming that this matter is dismissed without prejudice and the matter is in front of the District Court in Arizona do you have any quibble with moving forward with that case with all deliberate speed?
MR. MACLAY: Well, Your Honor, I'm a bankruptcy attorney, so I'm not directly involved in the Arizona action. I don't have any quibble with the general concept that if things are ripe and if the legal issues are appropriate it should move forward, but I'm not in a position to make any representations one way or the other at this time.
THE COURT: All right. But there were a lot of caveats in that. (Laughter)
THE COURT: I don't know what you -- what's the ripeness question? Certainly there is a live dispute about seniority as a result of that merger.
 
THE COURT: No, that's what American and US Airways has agreed to. Until there's a merger I understand US Airways is its own separate airline the last time I checked, and I would imagine integration issues are things that it tries to resolve in the ordinary course of business
in consultation with its union. Am I missing something
 
Hey Maroon;
Did you know that there were a bunch of east pilots that were overpaid by the company (based on incorrect longevity)? That was much easier to detect than the distance learning "over payment", I guess those FURLOUGHED US Air pilots were just too excited to be working again that they missed it.

BTW, several tax consultants were queried about contributions to an LLC that then pays for legal counsel to protect employment status. The consensus was it was allowed. I recall one person going through a random audit & the subject matter was approved.

Keep clicking thiose ruby red shoes, Dorothy. Oz is just around the corner.
Doesn't get "tested" until you're audited. Having said that, I don't see a problem that it's a tax deductible expense. If what you say is true then great.
 
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