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Traderjake, first of all, your reference does not even make sense. Every East pilot on the property (other than you) is conscious of the injustice and obscenity of the long past relevant Nic award; and of the exact opposite opinion shared by every pilot in the West Class..........You shame us all in continuing to falsify the connection. We all note your opinion, quit embarrassing us all trying to stretch (my own specialty!) the logic. RR

That shows how little you know.

I've flown with many East pilots who are embarrassed by what USAPA has done.

I'm embarrassed being associated with unethical people like you.
 
That shows how little you know.

I've flown with many East pilots who are embarrassed by what USAPA has done.

I'm embarrassed being associated with unethical people like you.

How many of those are in the 517? Or very near the top of the east list where the Nicolau abomination had little impact on them? Given your place on the A320 F/O list, I suspect most of the captains you fly with are very senior.

Maybe they just wanted the raise and the junior guys/gals be damned. That attitude certainly would not be novel. It would be a mistake to claim that the sad philosophy of "I'm on board, so pull up the ladders" is non-existent in the east group. It certainly is present, but happily not in number sufficient to cause harm.
 
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Have you seen my smiley face? Maybe I'll find it after Sept. 24th.......


Ooooooh, goodie! Have you guys gotten Prechill's countdown clock fixed after it was smashed in May? Will we get to have it running again? (I'm so excited!)
 
Is she going to sing when the 9 th clears the mess up again?
Bracing yourself for the inevitable? Already planning your trip to the 9th? Hate to break it to you but USAPA will be dead and buried long before you get to appeal Silver. This is it. 9-24 is your last chance to convince a Judgemthat what you're attempting to do is legitimate. A Jury took 90minutes to shut you down....your odds don't look good here either.
 
Bracing yourself for the inevitable? Already planning your trip to the 9th? Hate to break it to you but USAPA will be dead and buried long before you get to appeal.

Not sure where you get that. The APA is at least 6 months away from being our CBA and I think a ruling and appeal will be done before that, whichever side loses. I know you guys are counting on the APA dropping the appeal, but I wouldn't bet money on that route.

 
Not sure where you get that. The APA is at least 6 months away from being our CBA and I think a ruling and appeal will be done before that, whichever side loses. I know you guys are counting on the APA dropping the appeal, but I wouldn't bet money on that route.
So you think the APA is willing to throw Millions of dollars at further litigation on behalf of the East pilots that this far, have failed to prove the legality of their behavior? How long has it taken the 9th to get around to the DJ appeal? 18 months or so? Lets do the math, hearing Sept 24...lets say she rules the same day...which I doubt. You think USAPA will exist with a dime to its name in March 2015?
 
Maybe they just wanted the raise and the junior guys/gals be damned. That attitude certainly would not be novel. is present, but happily not in number sufficient to cause harm.

Maybe they think it's wrong to renege on a mutaully agreed upon arbitration process just because they don't like the result.

USAPA is the abomination but thankfully it will be dead soon.
 
Maybe they think it's wrong to renege on a mutaully agreed upon arbitration process just because they don't like the result.

USAPA is the abomination but thankfully it will be dead soon.
Just as the west wants to renege on the mutually agreed conditions. If the west wins, it will surely go to the ninth, but then the west agreed on the MOU. I think Marty led you down a dead end road. Send more money!
 
Just as the west wants to renege on the mutually agreed conditions. If the west wins, it will surely go to the ninth, but then the west agreed on the MOU. I think Marty led you down a dead end road. Send more money!

I don't know Marty and never sent him money.

The MOU addresses seniority integration between American and USAirways, not East and West.
 
Maybe they think it's wrong to renege on a mutaully agreed upon arbitration process just because they don't like the result.

USAPA is the abomination but thankfully it will be dead soon.


If it doesn't affect those pilots they can say whatever they want. Very easy to say we agreed to the process. Makes them look good in your and their eyes.

We also agreed to a fair and equitable no windfall process. That didn't happen.
The west wouldn't be fighting so hard and paying so much if it wasn't.

I'm glad (sarcasm)'. You are so happy and confident to screw your fellow pilots.
The west says it will only take two years longer to upgrade... Oh yippy, it takes two years longer. The part is where you end up on the list after the two years. Is it in the top third for the rest of your career or the bottom third on reserve?
 
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