August 2013 Pilot Discussion

[Pi brat]

Szymanski stated that USAPA is going for DoH with CR. Our CBL hasn't changed with regard to DoH. The actual wording in the MOU is debatable. And there's an arbitration award out there. Not so simple. That's why a judge will fix this for us.

Yeah, it really is simple.

I'm sure USAPA will advocate DOH with C&Rs. Guess what? I think that is a mistake. I thought it was a mistake to put it in the C&BLs. I thought it was a mistake to try and do it with AWA. But, I'm one guy, with one vote and all I can do is send emails with my suggestions. I don't get a seat at the table, any more than I did in congress when they were deciding on Obama care.

I think you are correct that a judge will fix it. Just not sure which judge or how.

 

[nevergiveup]

At this point, luck has no place.

Luck, young man, is said to be where preparation meets opportunity. I'll take all the luck I can!

 

[nevergiveup]

Szymanski stated that USAPA is going for DoH with CR. Our CBL hasn't changed with regard to DoH. The actual wording in the MOU is debatable. And there's an arbitration award out there. Not so simple. That's why a judge will fix this for us.

Of couse they will initially go for DOH, or are you the type that pays the list price for a car. Snap even brags about how much he paid!

 

[snapthis]

Sigh!....And here I'd thought "you'se" were supposedly "Pilots"? 😉 Pass on boxing. That's perhaps the stupidest sporting activity ever contrived (well...outside of Curling anyway). Where's the possible logic in limiting "combat" to fists-only, with the intent of battering another's skull until they're unable to continue...BUT...then wearing frikkin' padded gloves to do so!? WTF? God gave man opposable thumbs and a brain for good reasons. 🙂

I'm not a fan of curling but as a Scottish American I've been to the Highland games. They toss objects. I propose a new event. The Claxon toss. No gloves required but suggested.

Are you in?

 

[nycbusdriver]

What possible reason could you come up with that would trump "American?" Easy say, easy to hear and on the side of the airplane.

No truer words have been spoken on the subject.

 

[traderjake]

"Like any organized criminal (Mob) the weak underbelly is ACCOUNTING. Already there is the alleged brains behind USAPA that is serving a ten year prison sentence and facing more charges. His name is Charles Davis. He is an accountant/lawyer that is all about FRUAD.

I flew with Charles a couple of times and I'm pretty sure he had nothing to do with creating USAPA.

He wasn't even a MIG, although that doesn't prove anything.

I can't believe we thought he could cheat the IRS.

 

[Pi brat]

I just read this little tidbit. I wonder if this is a friend of Claxon?

I agree with the poster below, an investigation is in order. I hope his efforts are rewarded with indictments.

"Like any organized criminal (Mob) the weak underbelly is ACCOUNTING. Already there is the alleged brains behind USAPA that is serving a ten year prison sentence and facing more charges. His name is Charles Davis. He is an accountant/lawyer that is all about FRUAD. (just google Davis/IRS/US Airways pilot) There is an (alleged) connection between him and USAPA and during my interviews during Federal nvestigations I was questioned about him. After I flew back home from BNA after a full day of testimony at the DOL OLMS I was contacted by a Fed informing me that they were in process of moving this investigation to a criminal status requiring me to testify before a Federal Grand Jury."

http://www.justice.g...9-10-davis.html

Who told you he was a USAPA founder? Goat man? You shouldn't believe everything you hear/read.

 

[dca319]

Of couse they will initially go for DOH, or are you the type that pays the list price for a car. Snap even brags about how much he paid!

Look at the east's history. How much did we move off of DoH before this merger? Do our CBL's allow us to move of DoH? Last I've read, DoH is still a mandate for our side.

 

[snapthis]

I flew with Charles a couple of times and I'm pretty sure he had nothing to do with creating USAPA.

He wasn't even a MIG, although that doesn't prove anything.

I can't believe we thought he could cheat the IRS.

Who told you he was a USAPA founder? Goat man? You shouldn't believe everything you hear/read.

I came across it, did the Google search to check out the story about the IRS. I'm a skeptic like, Pi. At least that part of the story checks out.

 

[EastUS1]

Look at the east's history. ...did we... Do our...us....our side.

Still pathetically trying that east pilot impersonation, I see. How truly sad to observe. Get yourself some much-needed and clearly-long-overdue help.

 

[dca319]

Still pathetically trying that east pilot impersonation, I see. How truly sad to observe. Get yourself some much-needed and clearly-long-overdue help.

Sshhhhhh, take a break General. I'm getting worried about you - your posts are a bit more succinct. Everything alright at home?
And aren't the CBL's "our" (east and west) CBL's? When USAPA, as an entity, is going up against the APA, isn't it "us" (east AND west)? Did I miss something there Colonel?

 

[cleardirect]

The hand has been stacked in the west's favor for a long time now. Heck, I thought you guys would win in SFO on Addington I. Where has that gotten us? Poorer and stagnate, some more than others on each count.

Parker has told you that you put too much stock in the fact that they "accepted" the Nic. They did, just as they accepted USAPA's section 22 proposal, but he hasn't done anything with either one, has he? Turns out a legally elected CBA has a lot of power and a company that wants to use it's employees food fight has much more!

Here's a crazy idea. Let's use the actual wording in the MOU and not use the Nic or a previously combined DOH list. Let's let the merger committee, made up of east and west members, represent us using the listS currently in effect. Just like we voted for! Simple.

The company never accepted usapa's section 22 proposal. I have a letter signed by Parker accepting the Nicolau list.

I am sure that you would like to ignore the last eight years and have a redo. That is what you guys have demanded from the beginning. Not going to happen.

You need to understand what you voted for.

 

[nevergiveup]

The company never accepted usapa's section 22 proposal. I have a letter signed by Parker accepting the Nicolau list.

I am sure that you would like to ignore the last eight years and have a redo. That is what you guys have demanded from the beginning. Not going to happen.

You need to understand what you voted for.

I accepted a package from UPS last week. Does that mean I cannot return it? And why did he agree not to trigger the NIC after reaching a JCBA?

 

[Phoenix]

The company never accepted usapa's section 22 proposal. I have a letter signed by Parker accepting the Nicolau list.

I am sure that you would like to ignore the last eight years and have a redo. That is what you guys have demanded from the beginning. Not going to happen.

You need to understand what you voted for.

You have a letter..

You also think you have a congressional prohibition denying you the freedom to willingly choose a process consistent with MB.

Be sure to post when you have a fortune cookie announcing the effective date of the Nic.... Meanwhile you do have an MOU that defines an "effective date"

 

[cleardirect]

I accepted a package from UPS last week. Does that mean I cannot return it? And why did he agree not to trigger the NIC after reaching a JCBA?

How many issues are you wrong in this statement?

Did you purchase anything from UPS? Are you going to return it to UPS or the person selling the item?

Can the company simply return the Nicolau list back to Nicolau and get a refund?

Do try and come up with something a little better than this to make a point.