August 2013 Pilot Discussion

[Pi brat]

I wanted it documented that don't agree with or support reneging on my contractual and ethical obligations.

Apparently you do when it benifits you personally.

Save the threats and peer pressure for Junior High School.

What? By getting a section 29 letter you did renege on your contractual obligations!

I agree with your comment about saving threats and peer pressure for Junior High, but that is exactly what AOL is doing.

Was "Apparently you do when it benifits you personally." aimed at me, or a cut and paste from you response to USAPA?

 

[traderjake]

Was "Apparently you do when it benifits you personally." aimed at me, or a cut and paste from you response to USAPA?

Do you personally endose reneging on the Nicolau Award?

There's your answer.

 

[cactusboy53]

The Nic-list is not the compromise/solution to the dispute it was the genesis of the dispute.

Yes, the Nic Or Nothing list. It's the NON-list. We understand why you want. It's ok to want. Everyone dreams.

Wrong Scotty. Go play house. Let the adults work this out.

Dave

 

[Pi brat]

Just got a chance to read the transcript of the latest dog and pony show and ran across this:

'And then we had the McCaskill-Bond, which is a remedy
which we've already litigated and I think is fully briefed,
that, you know, to the extent that we are entitled -- we need
to have a decision whether we're entitled to a seat at the
table. And then if we go to the table, then we have the right
to pursue in that arbitration our list."

Wait a minute, wait a minute! Didn't Harper talk to clear? How many time has he told us that MB CANNOT be used in this disagreement?

 

[Pi brat]

Do you personally endose reneging on the Nicolau Award?

There's your answer.

How about you answer my question.

 

[Pi brat]

"THE COURT: If there's no merger, what case do you
have in front of me?
MR. HARPER: Candidly, probably none."

 

[Freighterguynow]

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Have a great day. I'm on 30+ hrs in BOS. It's going to be epic!

Swallow an extra one as you fly East routes

 

[Pi brat]

"MR. HARPER: Yeah, we included America West -- or
U.S. Airways in that."

Really? It's been 8 years and you can't get the name right? Kind of like my jumpseat rider a few months ago that put AWA on the carrier block of his jumpseat form.

 

[767one]

Personally I don't think there is any benefit to USAPA speaking out. There is no doubt we support the merger as projected in the MOU. It is obvious there must be changes to it and it is not advantagous to us to give Doug a green light thumbs up cheering squad before new negotiatons start. It's Doug's move and for once we should avoid negotiating against ourselves before negotiations even resume. IMHO.

Well said!!

 

[traderjake]

How about you answer my question.

I say again...

Do you personally endose reneging on the Nicolau Award?

 

[Phoenix]

Wrong Scotty. Go play house. Let the adults work this out.

Dave

It's humorous that you started a post with the accusation "wrong" and got at least three things wrong yourself.

Lets argue some more about the compromise. 🙂

 

[luvthe9]

Please note that when I say "you" or "your" I intend it to mean those pilots that voted for & support USAPA's DOH scheme.

The Nicolau list is the middle ground. It is the compromise. It is the final product of an agreed upon process. Done.

Have a great day. I'm on 30+ hrs in BOS. It's going to be epic!

Dave is shaking down the troops for one more big cut for him and Marty. Donate, please! Mrs Marty needs another Benz and Dave wants the big house in Anthem.

 

[Pi brat]

I say again...

That's not an answer. Go back and read my original post.

 

[luvthe9]

Just got a chance to read the transcript of the latest dog and pony show and ran across this:

'And then we had the McCaskill-Bond, which is a remedy
which we've already litigated and I think is fully briefed,
that, you know, to the extent that we are entitled -- we need
to have a decision whether we're entitled to a seat at the
table. And then if we go to the table, then we have the right
to pursue in that arbitration our list."

Wait a minute, wait a minute! Didn't Harper talk to clear? How many time has he told us that MB CANNOT be used in this disagreement?

Big word they love out in PHX. ENTITLED. SNAPTHIS is a closet liberal, he wants his NIC ENTITLEMENT.

 

[Metroyet]

Seham said the NIC was not binding because it was NEVER established in a ratified contract. It was and continues to be the dead bargaining position remnant of our old and failed bargaining unit, the one the majority of us voted to leave. He told that other group exactly the same thing, that RATIFIED contracts are binding across bargaining agents. I see no conflict. In the future, why don't you simply use the "way back" function on this forum and read all this stuff the other 200 times it has been asked and answered. What is it with all the NIC talk lately? It has been less than a week since Silver once again told Harper the implementation of that list was not on the table. RR

USTUPID inherited every single scrap of everything that had ALPA's name on it. Remember when they said, "wherever it says ALPA, just replace it with USAPA". The fact that the Nic wasn't ratified in any contract...other than the MOU you Ratified, is irrelevent. If it was just that simple this thing would have ended the day USAPA took over. Every Federal Judge that has examined the merits of the West's complaint has fast tracked it to trial. The 9th issued clear warnings....that were of course ignored by USTUPID as well.

If it makes you feel better, by all means, keep spouting it off. It's not real, but then again, when did reality every affect an Eastie?