August 2013 Pilot Discussion

[Walmartgreeter]

Call your reps NO MONEY FOR THE NEW HIRES, DCA rep Stein says screw the LTD guys they are faking it. DCA reps need to go.

I thought they went way too "deep" in the methodology of this disbursement, they should have just fallen back on the two 35M East payments. And I was perplexed they chose to use 8 Feb forward. I too don't think a new hire that did not even vote on the MOU deserves a share.

But I don't care. It's a small amount of moneys compared to our back pay and future raises.

And all the "USAPA" reps will soon be gone anyway.

It's done. Over. Move on. Adapt a pet tadpole. Be happy.

Greeter

 

[luvthe9]

I thought they went way too "deep" in the methodology of this disbursement, they should have just fallen back on the two 35M East payments. And I was perplexed they chose to use 8 Feb forward. I too don't think a new hire that did not even vote on the MOU deserves a share.

But I don't care. It's a small amount of moneys compared to our back pay and future raises.

And all the "USAPA" reps will soon be gone anyway.

It's done. Over. Move on. Adapt a pet tadpole. Be happy.

Greeter

Backpay, that's a joke I hope, "future raises" in case you have not heard ALL our 76's are gone by the end of next year, our 330's are all going to be gone within 3 to 4 years, we are still paid below everyone else.

 

[Phoenix]

I thought they went way too "deep" in the methodology of this disbursement, they should have just fallen back on the two 35M East payments. And I was perplexed they chose to use 8 Feb forward. I too don't think a new hire that did not even vote on the MOU deserves a share.

But I don't care. It's a small amount of moneys compared to our back pay and future raises.

And all the "USAPA" reps will soon be gone anyway.

It's done. Over. Move on. Adapt a pet tadpole. Be happy.

Greeter

What? Even ALPA knew to give equal portions of the 35M$ to all pilots on the seniority list, active or not. It was the only thing I recall that ALPA ever did correctly... USAPA could have saved a lot of trouble and admitted that ALPA did do one single thing right, even as repulsive such a notion is.

 

[prechilill]

Backpay, that's a joke I hope, "future raises" in case you have not heard ALL our 76's are gone by the end of next year, our 330's are all going to be gone within 3 to 4 years, we are still paid below everyone else.

Congratulations, you see the obvious. US is being converted to a 320 airline, with a few 190s. Once the MOU block hours are in place the 737s will be made into beer cans and replaced with more 190s.

 

[Walmartgreeter]

Backpay, that's a joke I hope, "future raises" in case you have not heard ALL our 76's are gone by the end of next year, our 330's are all going to be gone within 3 to 4 years, we are still paid below everyone else.

I meant "retrospective" pay. Sorry, the words failed me. Did not mean to give you a Viagra moment. The MOU protects our widebody flying for a while, and the only real protections we get going forward will be in the M/B protections, or whatever.

Personally, making almost a quarter million per year as a Group II C/O is not a bad thing. Of course there is always what "everyone else" is making, but that is your own demon. I hope and expect for moderate success in the process to protect our WB flying, nothing more.

All I know is the hell hole of LOA 93, and all its failed grievances, is almost over and gone, as well as the team that wanted to continue that folly. Although when the rates really get up, around 2016, I fully expect some miracles as to LTD recoveries and returns to the line.

And watch for Parrella to try and get on full FPL at APA. That horror has, and will continue to be addressed with the APA leadership, whoever they end up being. But I am biased, she stole 20K from me by refusing to prosecute the 3% issue by itself, due to her own failed pride.

Greeter

 

[Walmartgreeter]

Congratulations, you see the obvious. US is being converted to a 320 airline, with a few 190s. Once the MOU block hours are in place the 737s will be made into beer cans and replaced with more 190s.

[font="Arial""]Guess you were one of the 3% of tadpoles that voted against the MOU. [/font]

[font="Arial""]And your logic on 190s is stupid. No other way to say it. Read the MOU. But I can understand your lack of clarity on all things 190..your class has been wanting to fly them since 2005, to no avail.[/font]

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[Walmartgreeter]

What? Even ALPA knew to give equal portions of the 35M$ to all pilots on the seniority list, active or not. It was the only thing I recall that ALPA ever did correctly... USAPA could have saved a lot of trouble and admitted that ALPA did do one single thing right, even as repulsive such a notion is.

We actually voted on the East as USAPA pilots as to the method. Don't you remember? I do. ALPA was long gone.

That was long after ALPA. I give them no credit. The only thing they ever did right was ignoring our election as a possible success.

Greeter

 

[luvthe9]

Congratulations, you see the obvious. US is being converted to a 320 airline, with a few 190s. Once the MOU block hours are in place the 737s will be made into beer cans and replaced with more 190s.

You are so wrong we are going to put an order in for a bunch of 195's, and once UAL gets them as per the MOU that all our idiots voted for, yours and ours you will get about 108/hr for the 118 seat jet as in the shiney brochure we all received.

 

[luvthe9]

All I know is the hell hole of LOA 93, and all its failed grievances, is almost over and gone, as well as the team that wanted to continue that folly. Greeter

You are going to wish you had that group back in power soon, or do you prefer give away Hummel and Owens taking FPL instead of using THEIR sick time.

 

[prechilill]

The MOU protects our widebody flying for a while,

Personally, making almost a quarter million per year as a Group II C/O is not a bad thing.

All I know is the hell hole of LOA 93, and all its failed grievances, is almost over and gone,

Greeter

Clueless... That's about all I can say. The MOU is worthless- no protections for anyone, except maybe for the APA.
And that quarter million a year number, you obviously failed third grade math...
But at least the APA got you off of LOA93- your stupid union couldn't do anything. Of course, Parker had a hand in that outcome as well. It certainly is amazing how Dug can negotiate a contract in a matter of weeks with another pilot group. But, I am glad you are so happy with your MOU... which grows into an MTA and finally morphs into the contract which the APA was so kind to give us.

 

[Phoenix]

We actually voted on the East as USAPA pilots as to the method. Don't you remember? I do. ALPA was long gone.

That was long after ALPA. I give them no credit. The only thing they ever did right was ignoring our election as a possible success.

Greeter

Well I honestly had forgotten but I do remember voting on the method now that you remind me.. I am so delighted to say I was wrong about ALPA getting something correct!! Who is the genius this time that opposed determining the method the same way?

 

[cactusboy53]

Call your reps NO MONEY FOR THE NEW HIRES, DCA rep Stein says screw the LTD guys they are faking it. DCA reps need to go.

You can't even fathom "Final & Binding", what makes you think you have the squirrel power to understand anything else.

Moving to DC base soon? You don't have the mentality to work well with others. You should stay where you are.

 

[A320 Driver]

You are going to wish you had that group back in power soon, or do you prefer give away Hummel and Owens taking FPL instead of using THEIR sick time.

Why don't you take up another vocation before you have your own coronary. Call Gary and have him fill you in on what's in store for you. It's just around the corner...

 

[Claxon]

You can't even fathom "Final & Binding", what makes you think you have the squirrel power to understand anything else.

Moving to DC base soon? You don't have the mentality to work well with others. You should stay where you are.

You "saved the East pilots", could you have not at least saved the pilot contract.

Didn't mesa and american eagle teach you guys anything but saving an airline while in new hire west ground school. ("we saved you.")

west pilots standing up in pilot meeting accusing (reporting) pilots of misdeeds to doug will be remembered forever. eddie chandler, your mentor, would be proud of you. At 6:20 in the following video, watch eddie help recruit other scabs like himself.

tbone, how did it go working with eddie.

 

[Claxon]

west pilot video, one of eddie chandler's favorite