August 2013 Pilot Discussion

[nycbusdriver]

Yes, final and binding really is final and binding...
You will soon understand, appreciate and accept your own words... 🙂
Peace, my friend.

Will it work like your countdown last month? I assume it will be equally effective.

Yawn.

 

[cltrat]

Will it work like your countdown last month? I assume it will be equally effective.

Yawn.

how could we expect anything less?

 

[Freighterguynow]

happy with your MOU... which grows into an MTA and finally morphs into the contract which the APA was so kind to give us.

Giving up on Addington 3 so soon?

 

[Ames]

I more amused by him than anything. How he gets a following is beyond me.

Quite simple. Cleary and his following are idiots. The world is full of idiots.

 

[Ames]

You can't speak for the entire west employee group. Most of them are smarter than you and know that by merging with US it saved your failed career. Your welcome.

I do speak for the entire west pilot group, less perhaps 1%. Merging AWA and US saved only US. If we had not merged AWA and the entire industry would have done well without US Airways in the mix. The merger with Delta most likely would have gone through because the Delta pilots would not have objected to merging with AWA. They only objected to merging with US Airways because they were smart enough to know the results of injecting yourself with the Ebola virus.

 

[CaptChill]

I do speak for the entire west pilot group, less perhaps 1%. Merging AWA and US saved only US. If we had not merged AWA and the entire industry would have done well without US Airways in the mix. The merger with Delta most likely would have gone through because the Delta pilots would not have objected to merging with AWA. They only objected to merging with US Airways because they were smart enough to know the results of injecting yourself with the Ebola virus.

Were you born an a$Sh0Le or did you evolve into one?

 

[traderjake]

They only objected to merging with US Airways because they were smart enough to know the results of injecting yourself with the Ebola virus.

Keep Delta My Delta.

 

[A320 Driver]

I do speak for the entire west pilot group, less perhaps 1%. Merging AWA and US saved only US. If we had not merged AWA and the entire industry would have done well without US Airways in the mix. The merger with Delta most likely would have gone through because the Delta pilots would not have objected to merging with AWA. They only objected to merging with US Airways because they were smart enough to know the results of injecting yourself with the Ebola virus.

What exactly would AWA have brought to a merger with Delta that they would have been the least bit interested in? A dogfight with Southwest airlines over two leisure hubs?????

 

[fr8tmastr]

Congratulations, you see the obvious. US is being converted to a 320 airline, with a few 190s. Once the MOU block hours are in place the 737s will be made into beer cans and replaced with more 190s.

I agree, yet with that in mind why did West pilots vote so overwhelmingly for the MOU. I can understand (not agree with) the East vote. You have the senior guys who will gone prior to the devestation and don't care, and you have the brain dead that think they will all be flying 777's out of Dallas in a year. But the East was no where near 97%, what gives?

 

[Metroyet]

I agree, yet with that in mind why did West pilots vote so overwhelmingly for the MOU. I can understand (not agree with) the East vote. You have the senior guys who will gone prior to the devestation and don't care, and you have the brain dead that think they will all be flying 777's out of Dallas in a year. But the East was no where near 97%, what gives?

Honestly? You don't know the answer to that? I'm pretty sure the idea of expediting the demise of their fake union was a paramount motivator. USAPA has been completely unable to provide a single tangible benefit to any Pilot they allegedly "represent". The APA got you the MOU, without the merger USAPA would still be stuck nostrils deep in the tar pit.

 

[Pi brat]

I do speak for the entire west pilot group, less perhaps 1%. Merging AWA and US saved only US. If we had not merged AWA and the entire industry would have done well without US Airways in the mix. The merger with Delta most likely would have gone through because the Delta pilots would not have objected to merging with AWA. They only objected to merging with US Airways because they were smart enough to know the results of injecting yourself with the Ebola virus.

You don't really believe that, do you?

 

[Black Swan]

Honestly? You don't know the answer to that? I'm pretty sure the idea of expediting the demise of their fake union was a paramount motivator. USAPA has been completely unable to provide a single tangible benefit to any Pilot they allegedly "represent". The APA got you the MOU, without the merger USAPA would still be stuck nostrils deep in the tar pit.

Metro, you never did provide the MOU page with the reference and specifics with the exact wording that the MOU is a JCBA. You just squatted like you usually do, then run for a while after you spread your lies.

 

[Black Swan]

Honestly? You don't know the answer to that? I'm pretty sure the idea of expediting the demise of their fake union was a paramount motivator. USAPA has been completely unable to provide a single tangible benefit to any Pilot they allegedly "represent". The APA got you the MOU, without the merger USAPA would still be stuck nostrils deep in the tar pit.

Typical Metro lies.

 

[Metroyet]

Metro, you never did provide the MOU page with the reference and specifics with the exact wording that the MOU is a JCBA. You just squatted like you usually do, then run for a while after you spread your lies.

I actually have answered this several times. What is the title of the document your group ratified? Who is it binding upon? The APA's Q&A directly mirrors the same material the company mailed to your home PRIOR to the vote. You were told in no uncertain terms that the named entities regarded that MOU as a Contingent CBA before voting started. Did the APA just pull that out of their ass? They're no USAPA you know...they don't do that.

I hasten to add that every entity in court ....except for USAPA is flatly telling the Judge, "oh yes, this is the CBA". She listened to Siegle when he said..."there wll not be any more negotiations, this is the CBA" Now, if that fact bunches up your panties too bad.

 

[Black Swan]

I actually have answered this several times. What is the title of the document your group ratified? Who is it binding upon? The APA's Q&A directly mirrors the same material the company mailed to your home PRIOR to the vote. You were told in no uncertain terms that the named entities regarded that MOU as a Contingent CBA before voting started. Did the APA just pull that out of their ass? They're no USAPA you know...they don't do that.

I hasten to add that every entity in court ....except for USAPA is flatly telling the Judge, "oh yes, this is the CBA". She listened to Siegle when he said..."there wll not be any more negotiations, this is the CBA" Now, if that fact bunches up your panties too bad.

Nice try. The Q&A s don't mirror crap. Give the page and line in the MOU where it says it is a JCBA. You are a liar.
I have asked numerous times for the direct quote from the MOU, and every time you have an excuse or some other document. Pathetic.