August 2013 Pilot Discussion

[USA320Pilot]

What I find juvenile is that people would rather shoot the messenger and insult people than debate the facts. My initial post in this thread is about USAPA and their UELs once again misleading the pilots with specific clear cut examples.

Why do USAPA's minions insult others instead of entering into mature debate regarding the facts? They cannot dispute the facts and do not want to hear the truth.

This is exactly why US Airways' pilots pay the highest dues in the industry with the lowest pay and benefits.

Finally, I find it ironic and interesting that pilots will insult people while sitting behind their computer but don't have the guts to identify them self with a PM or in person. In my opinion, that's being a coward.

USA320Pilot

 

[EastUS1]

Finally, I find it ironic and interesting that pilots will insult people while sitting behind their computer but don't have the guts to identify them self with a PM or in person. In my opinion, that's being a coward.

You want "in person"? Excellent! Wager's always open. PM if interested. 🙂 "In my opinion, that's being a coward."...? I can't say that I'm much impressed with your "opinion" on, well...actually anything so far...Even if your "war record" potentially includes Decorations for being an "internet-tough-guy", perhaps even a "spartan"? No matter. Feel perfectly free to "impress" me. "that pilots will insult people while sitting behind their computer but don't have the guts..."? Nonsense. I can put your fears at ease there. I'd be more than happy to insult you,..outside of any/all airline duties and the attendent envirornment, of course. 🙂

 

[EastUS1]

USA320Pilot

PS: "Nice try" at a late-night-drive-by, push-out-your-pouting-lower-lip and puff-up-your-chest sniping, "tough guy" attempt. Perhaps it'd be best for you to just find some quiet corner to go shed some grand, crocodile tears and virtually sob "Armaggedon!..Armaggedon!" as you did years ago, when even confronted with a company bankruptcy. A true pity that cell phones with video weren't then available to capture that immortal moment. 🙂 "In my opinion, that's being a coward." 😉 The only people you'll ever impress here are "spartans" and the misbegotten likes of "LT Hardy"/traderjake 🙂

 

[Phoenix]

What I find juvenile is that people would rather shoot the messenger and insult people than debate the facts. My initial post in this thread is about USAPA and their UELs once again misleading the pilots with specific clear cut examples.

Why do USAPA's minions insult others instead of entering into mature debate regarding the facts? They cannot dispute the facts and do not want to hear the truth.

This is exactly why US Airways' pilots pay the highest dues in the industry with the lowest pay and benefits.

Finally, I find it ironic and interesting that pilots will insult people while sitting behind their computer but don't have the guts to identify them self with a PM or in person. In my opinion, that's being a coward.

USA320Pilot

Don't worry yourself too much 320. The majority of pilots are smart enough to spot BS being passed off as unbiased facts, and you will usually find that they don't have much interest in even responding... well usually, but occasionally they humor such drivel with a post or two.

There's one. Probably not a two this time.

 

[3dtv]

"Why do USAPA's minions insult others". You start with an insult (minions) and question being criticized. Classis chippy. Blame others, claim knowledge, fight against your peers. Priceless.

 

[Claxon]

What I find juvenile is that people would rather shoot the messenger and insult people than debate the facts. My initial post in this thread is about USAPA and their UELs once again misleading the pilots with specific clear cut examples.

Why do USAPA's minions insult others instead of entering into mature debate regarding the facts? They cannot dispute the facts and do not want to hear the truth.

This is exactly why US Airways' pilots pay the highest dues in the industry with the lowest pay and benefits.

Finally, I find it ironic and interesting that pilots will insult people while sitting behind their computer but don't have the guts to identify them self with a PM or in person. In my opinion, that's being a coward.

USA320Pilot

USA320pilot takes Twitter feed from west pilot Steve Gay in Charlotte courtroom and changes a few words. Then declares same as " unbiased facts". USA 320 pilot constantly works against his fellow pilots then declares USAPA ineffective.

 

[fatherabraham]

Nonsense. I can put your fears at ease there. I'd be more than happy to insult you,..outside of any/all airline duties and the attendent envirornment, of course. 🙂

Totally agree and look forward to opportunity . All others I have spoke with concerning the Chipster feel likewise . Had him in Jumpseat during that brief window where he advocated voting in Usapa. Missed my opportunity to rebuke his Ual misinfo that financially harmed many fellow pilots. I can verify that no one would be intimidated to personally openly share their dislikes with his past post in any way despite his meager attempts at calling anyone a coward for not foolishly outing themselves . PM him would do just that.

FA

 

[767one]

Totally agree and look forward to opportunity . All others I have spoke with concerning the Chipster feel likewise . Had him in Jumpseat during that brief window where he advocated voting in Usapa. Missed my opportunity to rebuke his Ual misinfo that financially harmed many fellow pilots. I can verify that no one would be intimidated to personally openly share their dislikes with his past post in any way despite his meager attempts at calling anyone a coward for not foolishly outing themselves . PM him would do just that.

FA

It is sort of funny that I got in trouble on this board for "outing" CM. Anybody who has even one live brain cell would have recognized any of his posts after reading only one sentence.

Bob Moore, Captain of the Belarus tractor and the jon boat

 

[FL430]

What I find juvenile is that people would rather shoot the messenger and insult people than debate the facts. My initial post in this thread is about USAPA and their UELs once again misleading the pilots with specific clear cut examples.

Why do USAPA's minions insult others instead of entering into mature debate regarding the facts? They cannot dispute the facts and do not want to hear the truth.

This is exactly why US Airways' pilots pay the highest dues in the industry with the lowest pay and benefits.

Finally, I find it ironic and interesting that pilots will insult people while sitting behind their computer but don't have the guts to identify them self with a PM or in person. In my opinion, that's being a coward.

USA320Pilot

You have ZERO credibility after your shenanigans in the past.

 

[A320 Driver]

Finally, I find it ironic and interesting that pilots will insult people while sitting behind their computer but don't have the guts to identify them self with a PM or in person. In my opinion, that's being a coward.

USA320Pilot

I am kind of embarrassed to out myself. I'm the guy who lost 60K of his 401K listening to your "done deal" predictions regarding the United/US Airways merger. There are a lot of others just like me and we don't forget. Save your predictions and "facts" for the weak minded. Fool me once...

 

[Piedmont1984]

I am kind of embarrassed to out myself. I'm the guy who lost 60K of his 401K listening to your "done deal" predictions regarding the United/US Airways merger. There are a lot of others just like me and we don't forget. Save your predictions and "facts" for the weak minded. Fool me once...

Don't be embarrassed. I also lost money thinking that merger would happen. Still joke that it's a done deal. No one to blame but myself. Hey, what's life without a cashectomy or two.

 

[mrbreeze]

I am kind of embarrassed to out myself. I'm the guy who lost 60K of his 401K listening to your "done deal" predictions regarding the United/US Airways merger. There are a lot of others just like me and we don't forget. Save your predictions and "facts" for the weak minded. Fool me once...

Good ole Chippy......cost me $63,000. And forget, HELL NO!

 

[traderjake]

Good ole Chippy......cost me $63,000. And forget, HELL NO!

That's less than what fighting the Nicolau Award on average has cost us.

 

[mrbreeze]

That's less than what fighting the Nicolau Award on average has cost us.

Maybe so, traitor, but a huge difference is that Chippy was our cub reporter, trusted ALPA guy on the inside, causing us to all trust in his postings, since he had a position on the ALPA website called "Rumor Control". The title "Rumor Control" in itself presents itself as knowing the facts, above all fiction as to what's going on not only in the industry, but what's going on inside ALPA. (he represented himself as a guy with an inside track on the truth). Now.....more of his BS.....trying to sensationalize and promote himself!!!!The big difference is that with the NIC battle we knew exactly what we were investing in instead of being misled by some dumbazz.

 

[traderjake]

Maybe so, traitor, but a huge difference is that Chippy was our cub reporter, trusted ALPA guy on the inside, causing us to all trust in his postings, since he had a position on the ALPA website called "Rumor Control". The title "Rumor Control" in itself presents itself as knowing the facts, above all fiction as to what's going on not only in the industry, but what's going on inside ALPA. (he represented himself as a guy with an inside track on the truth). Now.....more of his BS.....trying to sensationalize and promote himself!!!!The big difference is that with the NIC battle we knew exactly what we were investing in instead of being misled by some dumbazz.

So Chip held a gun to your head and forced you to take the trade?

At least Piedmont1984 takes responsibility for what he did.