August 2013 Pilot Discussion

[traderjake]

When did any of us "shake your hand"?

When we agreed to abide by the merger policy.

I forgot, you had your fingers crossed.

 

[Phoenix]

When did any of us "shake your hand"?

When we agreed to abide by the merger policy.

I forgot, you had your fingers crossed.

Ok, but are you gonna answer his question?

 

[Reed Richards]

When we agreed to abide by the merger policy.

I forgot, you had your fingers crossed.

By law, with a majority, your pilot group voted in new union, thus "you" agreed to pay dues. I guess being a dues deadbeat you also had your fingers crossed. RR

 

[Phoenix]

By law, with a majority, your pilot group voted in new union, thus "you" agreed to pay dues. I guess being a dues deadbeat you also had your fingers crossed. RR

:huh: :huh: :huh: :huh:

 

[Reed Richards]

ONLY IF.....

The scab unions action are wholly irrational and arbitrary.

So, only if....does apply, and the scab unions actions do fall outside a wide range of reasonableness.

Then tell your family to look forward to Christmas, you have a big win and a large settlement coming. USAPA might have had a chance, had they not been a "scab" union. I am sure that is exactly how Judge Silver will frame the award and damages. RR

 

[EastUS1]

I can't put my chips on the table and take them off after the hand is played.

That's not at all universally true. Just a few excerpts from generally accepted rules of poker:

"The following situations render a hand invalid:" "Should two or more cards of the same suit and rank be found during a hand, the hand is made void and all chips in the pot will be returned to the players accordingly."

Perhaps most applicable to the present situation = "Other deviation rules are as follows:"... "Any player who notices a defect in the cards that they or other players are dealt is required to report this immediately." 😉

For Blackjack: "If during a round of play the continuous shuffling machine malfunctions, or two or more cards are dealt and the order of the cards cannot be determined and that round cannot be completed, that round of play will be void." Insert "Arbitrator" for "continuous shuffling machine" here, and ponder a moment on "that round can't be completed", just for fun. 🙂

 

[Reed Richards]

That's not at all universally true. Just a few excerpts from generally accepted Rules of Poker:

"The following situations render a hand invalid:" "Should two or more cards of the same suit and rank be found during a hand, the hand is made void and all chips in the pot will be returned to the players accordingly."

Perhaps most applicable to the present situation = "Other deviation rules are as follows:"... "Any player who notices a defect in the cards that they or other players are dealt is required to report this immediately." 😉

In the poker profession there is actually a name for one of the "defects." It is known as a "windfall." The entire deck is thrown out in that situation. RR

 

[traderjake]

By law, with a majority, your pilot group voted in new union, thus "you" agreed to pay dues. I guess being a dues deadbeat you also had your fingers crossed. RR

I paid my dues and lived up to my obligation in a more timely manner than USAPA has.

Remind me to show you my Section 29 letter.

 

[Phoenix]

That's not at all universally true. Just a few excerpts from generally accepted rules of poker:

"The following situations render a hand invalid:" "Should two or more cards of the same suit and rank be found during a hand, the hand is made void and all chips in the pot will be returned to the players accordingly."

Perhaps most applicable to the present situation = "Other deviation rules are as follows:"... "Any player who notices a defect in the cards that they or other players are dealt is required to report this immediately." 😉

For Blackjack: "If during a round of play the continuous shuffling machine malfunctions, or two or more cards are dealt and the order of the cards cannot be determined and that round cannot be completed, that round of play will be void." Insert "Arbitrator" for "continuous shuffling machine" here, and ponder a moment on "that round can't be completed", just for fun. 🙂

Shack. Integrity of the house matters.

 

[Phoenix]

Quite convenient for a position to change after the result is revealed. I can't put my chips on the table and take them off after the hand is played.

The way I was raised, when you shake a man's hand it meant something.

You misunderstand. Negotiating positions change but that doesn't mean the union seeks any different result in the end.

"Fair" is still the required result. And it will be.

 

[nic4us]

I understand the UAL/CAL seniority list is out.

Hearing it went ratios for equipment and status.

 

[nic4us]

What a surprise..........um...not!

 

[snapthis]

You misunderstand. Negotiating positions change but that doesn't mean the union seeks any different result in the end.

"Fair" is still the required result. And it will be.

East is bringing his set of rules and you will be wearing sunglasses.

Be careful not to bluff..... 😉

 

[snapthis]

I understand the UAL/CAL seniority list is out.

Hearing it went ratios for equipment and status.

It did not go DOH?

Shocking

 

[Freighterguynow]

Although verbal (handshake) contracts are quite enforceable,

Only in the state of Pennsylvania and only if accompanied by the phrase " I agree to be legally bound" with a third party witness.

More Nic as- smoke.

Should've got it in writing - ever heard of that?