August 2013 Pilot Discussion

[Pi brat]

No logic or fact involved in your whining.

You are a hypocrite, and make your arguments very poorly.

For example, you would like me to prove you could have had parity, a reasonable assumption being that negotiations were taking place, yet, you also vehemently deny that Parker said without the merger US was cho.7 and done.

There is no "windfall" in the Nic, another of your baseless claims, yet you claim it as fact. The fact is you are a whining malcontent who has lost all credibility and will never be trusted by any pilot outside the east's uscaba camp.

Clear as can be, scab.

 

[Pi brat]

PI ...


Yes; Some things like having a non-liquidated company to work for is a benefit just like having a larger company with more crew bases and WB A/C is a merger benefit. Having to be integrated into a single seniority list with 517 protected positions is a cost. Both benefits and costs come with the merger, just like I said.






Vacancy not displacement/downgrading right? Again, just like I said.





I read the NIC award multiple times until it got to the names I don’t know. I have not read the East MEC report and wouldn’t know where to find it. Is the east MEC a more reliable, unbiased source than USAPA communications or even AOL?

I provided you with a link, miss it?

 

[Pi brat]

I'll have to disagree on the theological vernacular you use on my or anyone's salvation status, but still respond -

I see a unquestionable wrong in not honoring agreements. I don't the same categorical wrong (or any) in an east pilot still having a job for the rest of their working years but not being able to upgrade to the left seat or to a WB when such a circumstance is the result of a merger that a) kept everyone's job at AAA and b )required a SLI be decided by a neutral arbitrator who issued a fully legal and compliant award because the two parties could not negotiate their own solution without 3rd party intervention.

One day I believe the scales will fall from you eyes. I'll pray for you.

 

[Pi brat]

Perhaps because the former were all active at the merger date and making inconsequential adjustments for the current situation simply cleaned up the award list whereas changing the latter would be a fundamental change in the logical basis of the award.

There was no logical basis. Read from Gill, Brucia and the UA/CO SLIs.

 

[nic4us]

Wrong. Odell jumped more than 300 ACTIVE positions overnight. And what merit gave him that right?

Another piece of BS.

By the time the Nic came out Odell had more than the ?dozen? You claim in a prior post.

The 300 below him got a job back waaaaayyyyyy sooner than absent the merger, and what gave Odell that right is he was employed.... he did not jump anybody.

Again, just your hypocritical opinion.

The fact is Odell did not jump anybody. He should have been at least in front of Monda, but hey, Nic gave Odell the last spot, so be it!

 

[EastUS1]

I'm sure Delta employees are happy they told Parker to pound sand.

That much is certain.

 

[nic4us]

Clear as can be, scab.

Hey, next maybe you can quote the east MECs baseless claims of lost captain years?

It said, that since the West should not be senior enough to hold their own captain positions, the West has a "windfall" of captain years by flying as captains.

The actual FACT of the matter was that since the east was not able to be awarded the West's seats, they formed a scab union and try to steal them.

 

[EastUS1]

I don't the same categorical wrong (or any) in an east pilot still having a job for the rest of their working years but not being able to upgrade to the left seat or to a WB .....

Big surprise there. 😉

 

[EastUS1]

The actual FACT of the matter was that since the east was not able to be awarded the West's seats,....

Indeed, since it's axiomatic that everyone's innermost, secret dream to is go live in a frikkin' desert. 😉 One must reasonably imagine that the early pioneers were only forced to proceed further westward at gun point...? 🙂 To each his/her own, I suppose, but you're entirely welcome to glorious PHX. Enjoy!

 

[Freighterguynow]

Clear as can be, scab.

You are better than this.

 

[end_of_alpa]

You are better than this.

Not according to West pilots.

 

[Pi brat]

You are better than this.

I guess I'm not since I stooped to his level, but I should be. Thanks for the reminder. Sometimes we need it from those we respect.

 

[CallawayGolf]

There was no logical basis. Read from Gill, Brucia and the UA/CO SLIs.

No logical basic for placing active pilots on the lists above those who were not active and had little to no expectation of ever becoming active absent the merger? Did Nicolau also state there was no logical basis for this and he was just in a bad mood, or did he fully explain his methodology in defense of the list? You may not like the logic he used, but he didn't pull names out of a hat.

 

[Pi brat]

No logical basic for placing active pilots on the lists above those who were not active and had little to no expectation of ever becoming active absent the merger? Did Nicolau also state there was no logical basis for this and he was just in a bad mood, or did he fully explain his methodology in defense of the list? You may not like the logic he used, but he didn't pull names out of a hat.

He still screwed up. Compare and contrast with Gill.

Find that big blue link I provided for you? Or just not interested in facts?

I think deep down inside you know the Nic is wrong. Scales are hard to see through though.

 

[CallawayGolf]

He still screwed up. Compare and contrast with Gill.

Find that big blue link I provided for you? Or just not interested in facts?

I think deep down inside you know the Nic is wrong. Scales are hard to see through though.

I got the link. Haven't had a chance yet to dig into it much other than glancing at a few of the charts.

You know what I think deep down inside? Interesting. Since you know more about by deep thought than I do, then why do I advocate for the NIC even though "I know it is wrong"? Also what can I do to remove those scales?